WTF were the Sac Kings thinking?
The Kings need to make a vid for the Lakers. 
They could have Rodney king, Riots, Truckers getting beaten, Kobe smackin' around some broads, Illegals jumping fences, Olson twins swollowing tooth brushes, Gary Bucci snorting coke behind a dumpster and Madonna sleeping with everyone while Ashton Kutcher runs around telling Bruce Willis he got punked.

They could have Rodney king, Riots, Truckers getting beaten, Kobe smackin' around some broads, Illegals jumping fences, Olson twins swollowing tooth brushes, Gary Bucci snorting coke behind a dumpster and Madonna sleeping with everyone while Ashton Kutcher runs around telling Bruce Willis he got punked.
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I do not subscribe to a religion that allows or at least used to allow multiple wifes...
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If I paid to see a game, I want to see a game. Football players are hauled off on stretchers from injuries directly related to the game and the teams play on. Hell back in 1989 when Clint Malarchuk has his neck/jugular cut by a skate blade they scraped the blood off of the ice and finished the game. Like I said before, when men were men...
Oh, thats right it's you.....You see, everyone else seems to understand but you and I suspect it's because you are trying to argue your point no matter how lame it may be.
BTW - Good luck raising those kids to believe that winning is the only way. Just forget about teaching them sportsmanship and the like. They will do just fine.
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
The Kings need to make a vid for the Lakers. 
They could have Rodney king, Riots, Truckers getting beaten, Kobe smackin' around some broads, Illegals jumping fences, Olson twins swollowing tooth brushes, Gary Bucci snorting coke behind a dumpster and Madonna sleeping with everyone while Ashton Kutcher runs around telling Bruce Willis he got punked.

They could have Rodney king, Riots, Truckers getting beaten, Kobe smackin' around some broads, Illegals jumping fences, Olson twins swollowing tooth brushes, Gary Bucci snorting coke behind a dumpster and Madonna sleeping with everyone while Ashton Kutcher runs around telling Bruce Willis he got punked.
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ummm, I said moron not mormon. Basic literacy is an issue I see.
The game will get made up and everyone that had tickets that night will get to go. Where is the problem?
Oh, thats right it's you.....You see, everyone else seems to understand but you and I suspect it's because you are trying to argue your point no matter how lame it may be.
BTW - Good luck raising those kids to believe that winning is the only way. Just forget about teaching them sportsmanship and the like. They will do just fine.
Originally Posted by SilverScoober02 (in a previous post)
Anyways I am done with you.
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BTW - Good luck raising those kids to believe that winning is the only way. Just forget about teaching them sportsmanship and the like. They will do just fine. 

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Mormon, moron - what's the difference...
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What if someone came in from out of town to watch the game. Is the NHL or Jiri going to pay to fly them back in and put them up for the night so that they can see the game they paid for? I think not!
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They did not need to postpone the game in 1989 when the goalie became a blood fountain, why should they now when a player busted out with a horrible break dance. If only his little piece of cardboard did not get soggy from the frozen water under his feet...
You will probably come back with Chris Pronger's incident while playing the Red Wings when he was hit in the chest with a puck but again he was lucid and talking after he regained conciousness and they never did CPR on him. There is just no compairing those incidents. There has never been a situation in pro hockey where someone was in such need of life saving medical treatment.
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Winning is not the only way, but it is the only outcome you should be happy with. There are winners and losers, there can not and should not be anything in between. If you lose, you figure out what you did wrong and correct it the next time. You do not go out and have a pizza party unless you win the game because it is not OK to lose....
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Yet another lie exposed...
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There is a big difference if you are a mormon.
Knowing the Illich's they would refund that money to the person if they asked.
Small difference was that when Malarchuk sliced his throat open they had stopped the bleeding and he skated off the ice with a little help from a trainer.
No one wondered if he was dead or alive.
Originally Posted by From an article online:
His throat, carved open by a skate, spewed blood. The Memorial Auditorium ice turned crimson, leaving the mortified crowd to assume the worst.
http://www.emkeonline.com/malarchukbuffnews.html
http://www.emkeonline.com/malarchukbuffnews.html
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Malarchuk flung off his mask and collapsed to the ice in a pool of his own blood, fearing that he was about to die. He asked the trainer:
"Am I going to live?''
Malarchuk struggled to stay conscious, sensing that if he did pass out he'd never wake up. Aware that his mother had been watching the game on TV, he had an equipment manager call and tell her he loved her. Then he asked for a priest.
Something in his mind was telling him to get off the ice, "because I didn't want to die on the ice. I was saying prayers. I was scared."
"I did think I was done," said Malarchuk 13 years later, "Somewhere I'd heard that if you cut your jugular vein you've got a matter of minutes, like three minutes. I was going through the minutes preparing to die. I thought I had just three minutes to live and I've got a lot of repenting to do in three minutes."
The sight was so grizzly that 2 spectators suffered heart attacks and 3 of Malarchuk's teammates vomited while still on the ice.
It was estimated that if the skate hit 1/8 inch higher on Malarchuk's jugular, he would have been dead within 2 minutes. In the dressing room and on his way to the hospital, doctors spent 90 minutes and used over 300 stitches to close the wound.
http://thestateofhockey.net/forums/l....php/t881.html

"Am I going to live?''
Malarchuk struggled to stay conscious, sensing that if he did pass out he'd never wake up. Aware that his mother had been watching the game on TV, he had an equipment manager call and tell her he loved her. Then he asked for a priest.
Something in his mind was telling him to get off the ice, "because I didn't want to die on the ice. I was saying prayers. I was scared."
"I did think I was done," said Malarchuk 13 years later, "Somewhere I'd heard that if you cut your jugular vein you've got a matter of minutes, like three minutes. I was going through the minutes preparing to die. I thought I had just three minutes to live and I've got a lot of repenting to do in three minutes."
The sight was so grizzly that 2 spectators suffered heart attacks and 3 of Malarchuk's teammates vomited while still on the ice.
It was estimated that if the skate hit 1/8 inch higher on Malarchuk's jugular, he would have been dead within 2 minutes. In the dressing room and on his way to the hospital, doctors spent 90 minutes and used over 300 stitches to close the wound.
http://thestateofhockey.net/forums/l....php/t881.html

When Fisher left the arena he wasn't concious. No one knew until about 35-45 minutes after he collapsed if he was alive or dead, nor did they know if he was even going to make it.
You will probably come back with Chris Pronger's incident while playing the Red Wings when he was hit in the chest with a puck but again he was lucid and talking after he regained conciousness and they never did CPR on him. There is just no compairing those incidents. There has never been a situation in pro hockey where someone was in such need of life saving medical treatment.
What can I say I can't help myself. It's just too easy to point out all the BS you spew.
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I remember that game actually and they probably would have stopped that game if it happened today. But the fact that he skated off under his own power (albeit with a little help) influenced that decision a bit I bet, not to mention it was probably alot easier for teamates to cope knowing he never lost conciousness.
Also the Predators had just attended the memorial to Zholtok who collapsed and died in Latvia during a game so I am sure that factored into the decision a little bit.
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with postponing the game. I would also say that 99.8 percent of people that were at that game see nothing wrong with it. It is just a game and somethings are just more important.
Why does it matter to you though? Hockey is still the toughest damn sport out there. No one in any other sport takes 10 stitches in the face and come back to play the next period. You should start writing the NHL if you are that upset about what the game has become, I think it's great, although I am not too happy about OLN carrying the games and how they cut to commercial during fights. But other than that I can't complain.
BTW - Who do you guys root for out there, seriously? San Jose?
Actually I have met them, but I wouldn't say I know them. I was speaking in terms of what good owners they are and the things they have done for Detroit in general. Knowing the kindness they display towards others I guess is how I should have put that.
When you stop making asinine statements I will give it a shot, deal?
Thanks for the debate. Made work go by super fast.......
Also the Predators had just attended the memorial to Zholtok who collapsed and died in Latvia during a game so I am sure that factored into the decision a little bit.
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with postponing the game. I would also say that 99.8 percent of people that were at that game see nothing wrong with it. It is just a game and somethings are just more important.
Why does it matter to you though? Hockey is still the toughest damn sport out there. No one in any other sport takes 10 stitches in the face and come back to play the next period. You should start writing the NHL if you are that upset about what the game has become, I think it's great, although I am not too happy about OLN carrying the games and how they cut to commercial during fights. But other than that I can't complain.
BTW - Who do you guys root for out there, seriously? San Jose?
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Do you really know them?
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When are you going to start doing that?
Thanks for the debate. Made work go by super fast.......
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
I remember that game actually and they probably would have stopped that game if it happened today. But the fact that he skated off under his own power (albeit with a little help) influenced that decision a bit I bet, not to mention it was probably alot easier for teamates to cope knowing he never lost conciousness.
Also the Predators had just attended the memorial to Zholtok who collapsed and died in Latvia during a game so I am sure that factored into the decision a little bit.
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with postponing the game. I would also say that 99.8 percent of people that were at that game see nothing wrong with it. It is just a game and somethings are just more important.
Why does it matter to you though? Hockey is still the toughest damn sport out there. No one in any other sport takes 10 stitches in the face and come back to play the next period.
You should start writing the NHL if you are that upset about what the game has become, I think it's great, although I am not too happy about OLN carrying the games and how they cut to commercial during fights. But other than that I can't complain.
BTW - Who do you guys root for out there, seriously? San Jose?
Personally I grew up in LA and am first and foremost a LA Kings fan (Pre Gretzky era FWIW)
Actually I have met them, but I wouldn't say I know them. I was speaking in terms of what good owners they are and the things they have done for Detroit in general. Knowing the kindness they display towards others I guess is how I should have put that.
When you stop making asinine statements I will give it a shot, deal?
Thanks for the debate. Made work go by super fast.......
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But he lost a lot of his blood and nobody knew if he was dead or alive until after the game.
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Because they can not focus on the task at hand. If more poeple would just do their job instead of looking for every excuse not to, this country would be so much better off.
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Again people should do their job. If you can not handle violence and injury/possible death you should not be watching or playing hockey.
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They used to play first and get stitches after the game.
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Suspending a player and hitting the coach with a fine if a player starts a fight in the last 5 minutes of the game = pussification. The game is on a downward slide on a slippery slope right now. Removing the 2 line pass eliminated a lot of the open ice hits - one of the best parts of the game. The hip check is now a clipping penalty. The goaltender is not allowed to play the puck in the corners. The game has changed for the worse. THe only good thing they did was bring back the delayed off sides - but then again that never should have gone away in the first place...
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Sounds like a valid complaint to me. I do not watch the games on OLN if I can ata ll avoid it for that very reason.
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I go to Sharks games and used to have season tix when I lived in San Jose - I got to skate with the players a few times and have a game worn autographed McSorley jersey and a playoff game autographed Kelly Hrudey goal stick as well because my boss at the time was good friends with one of the equipment managers at the time.
Personally I grew up in LA and am first and foremost a LA Kings fan (Pre Gretzky era FWIW)
Personally I grew up in LA and am first and foremost a LA Kings fan (Pre Gretzky era FWIW)
I'd like to say I have season tickets but I don't. There is a seven year waiting list to get them in Detroit. I get to games as much as I can which usually means 10-15 times a year. Saw the Blues-Wings on Saturday night actually (man did we suck that night)
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So you have no idea if they would pay people's travel expenses - come on get real and admit that you know they wouldn't
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The fans didn't know if he was dead or alive, which I am sure they announced soon after, just like they did in this case.
C'mon man, comparing a game and the countries woes is a bit much.
Agreed, but it wasn't anything hockey related that directly caused the problem which made it ten times worse for the players in the game.
No they didn't. Sure if it wasn't that bad they may put a butterfly on it and stitch it up after the game, but if it was a good enough cut they would stitch it up and then play.
Yes....but I kinda like the fact that the goalie can't play the puck in the corners. If they let him play it in the corners he should be fair game for checks.
Goalies need to be protected because they need to play to stay sharp. They are on the ice for the entire game and with all the equipment they wear they can not move as fast to avoid hits. The way players are running goaltenders now and the number of injured goaltenders at this point in the season is alarming.
So the whole McSorley/Brashear thing probably pissed you of, eh? On a good note it probably made that jersey worth a little bit more than it ever would be otherwise...
Marty is and always will be my favorite player to ever stop on the ice, I wore 33 when I played because of him and he will always have my respect. Unless of course he becomes a Catholic priest and starts effing little boys in the ***. That would be going too far...
Moore had it coming also. If he had manned up, faced Bertuzzi and fought he would still be playing today.
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We are never going to agree on the Fischer thing so we should just agree to disagree. But it seems that we do agree on alot of things. I agree on the McSorley/Brashear thing and on the Bertuzzi/Moore thing.
I guess if you compare todays NHL with Gordie Howe's NHL the toughness factor doesn't even compare. But then you look at any other sport in comparison and everything else, how did you say....is major pussification. I mean if you get a hangnail in baseball you are on the 15 day DL for god sakes, I don't even want to get into fouls in Basketball....
I'm just glad hockey is back because curling just wasn't doing it for me...
I guess if you compare todays NHL with Gordie Howe's NHL the toughness factor doesn't even compare. But then you look at any other sport in comparison and everything else, how did you say....is major pussification. I mean if you get a hangnail in baseball you are on the 15 day DL for god sakes, I don't even want to get into fouls in Basketball....
I'm just glad hockey is back because curling just wasn't doing it for me...
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