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Originally Posted by WRXLAD
i-speed...gone. S-squared...gone. It seems that it isn't easy to make a business of tuning suby's..especially high boost/power motors. Makes you appreciate the skills of the guys who know what they are doing (we all know who they are).
Despite how ****ty they actually were, they are still alive. In SoCal.
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Originally Posted by sonicsuby
To be fair, Nate does know what he's doing. He's a very talented guy.
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Originally Posted by sonicsuby
To be fair, Nate does know what he's doing. He's a very talented guy. The page explains what happened and why things went the way they did.
I personally am just glad that he is not teaching "diagnostics and tuning" at wyotech....
That's just my 2 cents, it is what it is.. it's not to cause drama
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Originally Posted by LookingForPower
Ok now to be fair to Joe I am going to go out on a "limb" here and say this, but Joe wasn't the person in the back tuning the motors that s-squared has blown, Joe did not blow Percy's Motor, Joe did not Blow My Motor, Joe did not Blow Mark's Motor, Joe actually had almost no part in a lot of the "mishaps" that has happened to many people that ended up costing them thousands on thousands of dollars... Like I said Nate was/is a good person and I don't want to take away from that with this post, but Joe is not the only person to blame on the mishaps that happened at s-squared, the lieing yes because I remember I would call and Joe would say it would be done in a couple of days, and it wasn't tell I actually talked to Nate that I felt I was hearing the truth of what was up with my car. The fact of the mater is that Nate new what he was doing as far as your off the shelf tunes, but when it came to the high hp, built motors he was not up to par and should have recognized that and pushed some people away instead of trying to concur the task and end up blowing motors....
I personally am just glad that he is not teaching "diagnostics and tuning" at wyotech....
That's just my 2 cents, it is what it is.. it's not to cause drama
I personally am just glad that he is not teaching "diagnostics and tuning" at wyotech....
That's just my 2 cents, it is what it is.. it's not to cause drama
You keep talking about "high hp and built motors". Your motor isn't "built" and there's another guy running the SAME EXACT setup as you (or at least was until you went with a different turbo) who regularly tracks and daily drives his car with ZERO problems. And for each person with a blown motor, there's also a bunch of people who are doing great and running fine. There were quite a few of us who were running bigger turbos on our ej20s making great power and doing fine as well. In fact, lowball had his car tuned by Nate and constantly tracks it with no issues, and you can't say even for a second that his car isn't fast as hell.
What happened to your cars sucks and it's certainly unfortunate. Nate even apologized for it. I know why you're frustrated and you're definitely entitled to be, but to say Nate didn't know what he was doing is untrue.
Originally Posted by LookingForPower
Ok now to be fair to Joe, I am going to go out on a "limb" here and say this, [strikeout]but[/strikeout] Joe wasn't the person in the back tuning the motors that S-Squared has blown. Joe did not blow Percy's Motor, Joe did not blow my motor, Joe did not blow Mark's motor. Joe actually had almost no part in a lot of the "mishaps" that have happened to many people, which ended up costing them thousands upon thousands of dollars... Like I said Nate was/is a good person and I don't want to take away from that with this post; but Joe is not the only person to blame on the mishaps that happened at S-Squared. The lieing yes, because I remember I would call and Joe would say it would be done in a couple of days, and it wasn't 'till I actually talked to Nate that I felt I was hearing the truth of what was up with my car. The fact of the matter is that Nate knew what he was doing as far as your off-the-shelf tunes. But when it came to the high-hp built motors he was not up to par and should have recognized that and pushed some people away instead of trying to concur(you mean conclude?) the task and end up blowing motors....
I personally am just glad that he is not teaching "diagnostics and tuning" at Wyotech....
That's just my 2 cents, it is what it is.. it's not to cause drama
I personally am just glad that he is not teaching "diagnostics and tuning" at Wyotech....
That's just my 2 cents, it is what it is.. it's not to cause drama
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Originally Posted by sonicsuby
You keep talking about "high hp and built motors". Your motor isn't "built" and there's another guy running the SAME EXACT setup as you (or at least was until you went with a different turbo) who regularly tracks and daily drives his car with ZERO problems. And for each person with a blown motor, there's also a bunch of people who are doing great and running fine. There were quite a few of us who were running bigger turbos on our ej20s making great power and doing fine as well. In fact, lowball had his car tuned by Nate and constantly tracks it with no issues, and you can't say even for a second that his car isn't fast as hell.
What happened to your cars sucks and it's certainly unfortunate. Nate even apologized for it. I know why you're frustrated and you're definitely entitled to be, but to say Nate didn't know what he was doing is untrue.
What happened to your cars sucks and it's certainly unfortunate. Nate even apologized for it. I know why you're frustrated and you're definitely entitled to be, but to say Nate didn't know what he was doing is untrue.
Ok, I will get more in-detailed then, because nate has tuned a couple Big Turboed Ej20's and had great success, the biggest problem it looks like that Nate Ran into with the Subaru's at least(I can understand the Evo's because he was new to it all) was Big MAF'd cars, the tune that was on my car, has been looked at and if you had the tune in front of your face it would not look like it was from someone who knew what they where doing, for example one of the issues with my car was it was losing 40-50awhp when the motor would get hot. Nate thought it was something mechanical(as did I,giving him the benefit of the doubt). What turned out to be two things, one of which was his Big Maf tune just wasn't there... It was all over the place causing the car to basically go into safe mode as it had no idea what it was trying to do... the other thing that triggered the event was fixed from a different shop, and my car has been running PERFECT(besides the oil consumption) ever since... So I guess I needed to be more specific. I know my motor isn't "built" yet, but it was running a decently sized turbo that definitely required a lot of knowledge before trying to tune it, my question is then... If doubleurx's car has been running so perfect, what was the case with mine that caused the motor to give way?? It doesn't make sense to me... Originally it was blamed on something mechanical, but turned on being more pointed at the tuner...
All I know is from what I have seen, and been told from many cars, so I am thinking maybe it had more something to do with the BIG MAF's that he had trouble with then?? I do not know
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Originally Posted by jvick125
Spelling & Grammar > You
Good thing i'm not going to be a english major then...
I never have seen the point in trying to fix someone's grammar online...
Originally Posted by LookingForPower
Good thing i'm not going to be a english major then...
I never have seen the point in trying to fix someone's grammar online...
You're a little odd sometimes
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Originally Posted by LookingForPower
Ok now to be fair to Joe I am going to go out on a "limb" here and say this, but Joe wasn't the person in the back tuning the motors that s-squared has blown, Joe did not blow Percy's Motor, Joe did not Blow My Motor, Joe did not Blow Mark's Motor, Joe actually had almost no part in a lot of the "mishaps" that has happened to many people that ended up costing them thousands on thousands of dollars... Like I said Nate was/is a good person and I don't want to take away from that with this post, but Joe is not the only person to blame on the mishaps that happened at s-squared, the lieing yes because I remember I would call and Joe would say it would be done in a couple of days, and it wasn't tell I actually talked to Nate that I felt I was hearing the truth of what was up with my car. The fact of the mater is that Nate new what he was doing as far as your off the shelf tunes, but when it came to the high hp, built motors he was not up to par and should have recognized that and pushed some people away instead of trying to concur the task and end up blowing motors....
I personally am just glad that he is not teaching "diagnostics and tuning" at wyotech....
B.S. I call on this one & Mark's(sorry Nate for contributing to the crap that will no certainly fall):
I recall several posts where we (you, Mark and I) got into it over this very subject. Later in a separate thread I recall you stating that your block was "Technically" within spec with regards to a compression test after the tune. This same "blown" motor has magically been able to run since that date with a newly installed GT35R and a couple of drag evenings to boot. Well ,sorry, but the condition of your Motor does not exclude your responsibility as the owner.
That's just my 2 cents, it is what it is.. it's not to cause drama
I personally am just glad that he is not teaching "diagnostics and tuning" at wyotech....
B.S. I call on this one & Mark's(sorry Nate for contributing to the crap that will no certainly fall):
I recall several posts where we (you, Mark and I) got into it over this very subject. Later in a separate thread I recall you stating that your block was "Technically" within spec with regards to a compression test after the tune. This same "blown" motor has magically been able to run since that date with a newly installed GT35R and a couple of drag evenings to boot. Well ,sorry, but the condition of your Motor does not exclude your responsibility as the owner.
That's just my 2 cents, it is what it is.. it's not to cause drama
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I haven't followed what's happend at all because frankly SRIC sucks now. Is all that you losers do argue about which one of your stupid cars is compensating for your complete and utter lack of social skills the best? No matter how big your turbo is, it's not gonna help you form a paragraph that doesn't make it obvious high school english broke your *****. I can't imagine (nor do I want to) what kind of dick waving contests meets are these days.
I doubt Nate will read this, but if one of you guys would pass it on I'd appreciate it. I just want to extend my thanks for all the help you've given me over the years. I always trusted your work and you were always fair and honest with me. I don't know what happend and I don't give a ****, to be frank I could definitely see a change especially when you moved to the new shop, it was pretty obvious you just weren't happy anymore. I'm glad you decided to make a change. I think you'll make an awesome instructor (or whatever you are doing) at Wyotech, and I hope more importantly you are happy there. My RS and I thank you.
JC
I doubt Nate will read this, but if one of you guys would pass it on I'd appreciate it. I just want to extend my thanks for all the help you've given me over the years. I always trusted your work and you were always fair and honest with me. I don't know what happend and I don't give a ****, to be frank I could definitely see a change especially when you moved to the new shop, it was pretty obvious you just weren't happy anymore. I'm glad you decided to make a change. I think you'll make an awesome instructor (or whatever you are doing) at Wyotech, and I hope more importantly you are happy there. My RS and I thank you.
JC
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On another note:
I only have great things to say about Nate. The work he has done on my car has been excetptional.
I wish you the best sir if you are reading. Pay no attention to the fools on the sidelines. That is where they will always be.
I only have great things to say about Nate. The work he has done on my car has been excetptional.
I wish you the best sir if you are reading. Pay no attention to the fools on the sidelines. That is where they will always be.
