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Old May 1, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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For sure. The prices are amazing too, so I was a little concerned.

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im only on sti stock springs and Ive read its best to only get a bigger rear when your running only stock-ish springs. plus wagons for some reason come with a puny 17mm rear. but im no expert. isnt the front quite a bit more difficult to swap?
Got it. I only had a rear sway for my STI and I think it is a better choice for that suspension. It reduces understeer. Front would maybe be a little more difficult, although I have never done the front. I would suggest removing the exhaust in the rear so you don't have to wiggle the sway in, thats what I do.
Old May 1, 2012 | 10:25 PM
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alrighty, I wonder if Kyle still has his...? what size is/was it? opinion on performance increase?
Old May 2, 2012 | 05:20 AM
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alrighty, I wonder if Kyle still has his...? what size is/was it? opinion on performance increase?
I have the cusco 24 mm with whiteline endlinks, night and day difference! Without it the back half of the wagon feels like its twisting separate from the front...
Old May 2, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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Sways make a BIG diff?
Old May 2, 2012 | 09:01 AM
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I have the cusco 24 mm with whiteline endlinks, night and day difference! Without it the back half of the wagon feels like its twisting separate from the front...
I HIGHLY suggest you upgrade your rear sway bar mounts. The bug eye ones SUCK! At the very least pick up some from an 04-07. They have an extra brace on them. The bug eye ones are open on the side and are prone to break. I guarantee it's only a matter of time before it snaps on one of the "aggressive" drives.
Old May 2, 2012 | 09:03 AM
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Sways make a BIG diff?
Yes. Especially on a wagon. The rear sway bar is the size of my pinky.
Old May 2, 2012 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by onboostsubie
For sure. The prices are amazing too, so I was a little concerned.



Got it. I only had a rear sway for my STI and I think it is a better choice for that suspension. It reduces understeer. Front would maybe be a little more difficult, although I have never done the front. I would suggest removing the exhaust in the rear so you don't have to wiggle the sway in, thats what I do.
Removing the exhaust is more work than it's worth.

All you have to do is pop it off of axle back hanger and the 2 hangers by the rear bumper. But it's not that hard to loop around the exhaust anyways.

The front isn't that hard. You have to remove your subframe. After that it's right there. Easy. If he's going in there to do the steering bushings he could do the bar at the same time.


As for bars... if you're running stockish suspension you'll notice a larger bar in the rear BIG time. Hell I upgraded to a sedan 20mm rear bar and was happy with that for a while.

If you go over 22mm in the rear I'd suggest a front bar. I run a 22/24 adjustable in the front and a 24/27 adjustable in the rear.

There was and are a lot of people that say... why would you upgrade the rear bar then upgrade the front and offset the upgrade in the rear. Well... because it's stiffer and works better. But like I said... that's if you're getting one of the bigger bars.



So.... here's what I'd get..
Either whiteline HD rub mounts or at the very least some 04-07 mounts.
Rear endlinks. Whiteline HD or kartboy.
Rear sway bar. If you're going 22mm (like cusco) then that's cool.
Front endlinks.

That will be plenty of sway on pretty much any strut/spring combo and you'll friggin be amazed at the difference. The rear sway bar is the single best suspension upgrade you can make on the wagon.
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I want sway bars badly. Definitely my next suspension mod.
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22-24mmRear sway + endlinks here...love the way it felt after I first installed it, got sideways in rays driveway turning into it haha

Don't think I'm gonna do fronts unless I bust an endlink or something
Old May 2, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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22-24mmRear sway + endlinks here...love the way it felt after I first installed it, got sideways in rays driveway turning into it haha

Don't think I'm gonna do fronts unless I bust an endlink or something
The front end links are so much shorter that they don't fail as often but if you can come up on a pair I'd do it. Especially if you're running the stock bar. You'll notice it.... well you less than others... mr. alk! Bastard.

I think I picked my whiteline ones up for like $75 or something like that. I still need to get new rears. I'll have to order them in a few weeks. Just bought a bunch of crap and put down $500 for my wife's trip to disneyland. Broktid!
Old May 2, 2012 | 11:25 AM
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+1 for rear sways on the wagon. It was a night and day difference. I picked up a used 24mm adjustable whiteline, I run it on the softest setting with stock endlinks and modified mounts. It helped with understeer until I got a "custom alignment" that was supposed to be for performance but the shop put it back to stock settings. If I had known better at the time I would not have paid for the alignment.
Old May 2, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Yeah that alignment was bogus man. Maybe bump it up to the middle setting until you get it fixed?
Old May 2, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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Yeah that alignment was bogus man. Maybe bump it up to the middle setting until you get it fixed?
ray which firestones did you say give custom alignments?



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