did anyone get recon with their aftermarket peices on? or do they need to be taken off. it's quite some work to take them off and on.

 

I dont think im even gonna mention the uppipe and down pipe cause I really couldnt see a cop popping the hood and noticing a TXS uppipe and PDE DP instead of stock, but I could be wrong though.

 

no need, just put exhaust.. i mean, i guess you could if you want to.. and i also put down stuff that was viewable from my engine bay. ex ground kit, bov, hoses, etc..

 

They popped my hood up. I had my header, up-pipe, and PDE downpipe on with no heat shield on the dp...they didn't say anything...I would put the heat shield back on if you are paranoid though...no way they can tell doing this.

The only thing they stopped for a few seconds to discuss was my Short Ram intake...they tried to move it and since it was securely fastened...moved on.

They are nice guys...just don't make it anything so obvious that they "have to" fail you...know what I mean?

 

Thanks.

 

id be careful, i believe having no cats is a federal offense.....

 

is it really? wow didnt know that. but the rear is just a resonator isnt it? the actual "cat" is in the up pipe, isnt it?

 

i think im getting the catted downpipe. anyone have a opinion on it?

 

me personally i dont like cats but i do have a free flowing one in place of my stocker on top of that my txs dp eliminates the dp cat....i do how ever plan on buying the txs race pipe that replaces the free flowing cat in switch them out when i go to the track

 

yea, i never heard of any stories of anyone getting caught or anything but i was told in my automotive class that it is.. are u talking about that piece that looks like a cat on the mid pipe? yea its just a resonator... there are also cats in the downpipe.

i was gonna get a catted downpipe but i got flamed for asking about it. i just went with a non catted one, no problems but the smell.. plus its cheaper. ive seen some downpipes like 4080's txs system with a removable cat where u could install a test pipe to make a turbo back. but they are all expensive..

 

yeah, the smell is what conserned me. i don't mind breathing that crap, but i don't want my kid to.

 

hmm heres an interesting downpipe...

http://www.fastwrx.com/pdeuldo.html

price is killer tho... and i think that the txs would be easier to swap from cat to non catted because the txs has it at the bottom of the dp.

maybe u can get this one

https://www.i-club.com/forums/hawaii-classifieds-97/turboxs-tbe-sbc-id-iii-108646/

 

then we have a few police officers and thousands of violators here in hawaii!

i personally don't like cats. all my performance cars didn't have em. as far as the kids smelling it... it only applies while idle in garage or at a stoplight. very minute. there are tons of more damaging elements out there to worry about... plus technically a free-er(sp?) flowing exaust technically lets you have better gas mileage--- with less restriction..(unless i'm missing some technical specs) grant it if you don't indulge yourself on the newfound rumble



aloha from the summit of *-^-Mauna Kea-^-*

 

haha yea they dont seem too strict about it... i dont like cats either, i only like that fact that they make the exhaust cleaner....

so i looked it up for anyone else interested in learning more about the catalytic converter thing... i thought it was interesting, now who ever reads this knows what they can get into....


FEDERAL LAWS
Please familiarize yourself with the following federal laws and regulations.

CONDITIONS FOR REPLACEMENT
To any person repairing or installing any exhaust system, the Clean Air Act, as amended 1990, requires that:
AFTERMARKET CATALYTIC CONVERTERS MAY ONLY BE INSTALLED IN THE FOLLOWING SITUATIONS:

1. If the vehicle is missing a converter; *

2. If a State or local inspection program has determined that the existing converter has been lead-poisoned, damaged, or otherwise rendered ineffective and needs replacement. Retain a copy of this statement from any government inspection or enforcement agency for your records;

3. If the vehicle is over five (5) years old, or has more than 50,000 miles, or eight (8) years old or 80,000 miles for 1995 and newer model vehicles, AND a legitimate need for replacement has been established and documented.* This situation normally would include only plugged converters or those damaged to the point where unrepairable exhaust leaks are present. See * DOCUMENTATION REQUIREMENTS below.

Catalytic converters are emission control devices which are designed to last the life of the vehicle and do not normally require replacement. Furthermore, if the vehicle is properly used and maintained, original converters are covered by the emissions control warranty for 5 years/50,000 miles, or 8 years/80,000 miles for 1995 and newer models. Federal law prohibits any person from replacing these devices except under limited circumstances (ABOVE).

* DOCUMENTATION REQUIREMENTS *
In order to establish and document that the circumstances permitting replacement of an original or missing converter with an aftermarket converter meeting the required performance criteria exist, the Installer must complete the INSTALLER’S WARRANTY SHEET. The installer and the vehicle owner must sign the statement establishing and documenting catalytic converter replacement justification.

- A copy of the completed warranty sheet must be attached to the invoice and retained by the installer for six (6) months
.
- Also, the replaced converter(s), if any, must be retained by the installer for at least fifteen (15) days from the date of installation.

- The installer must install each replacement catalytic converter according to EPA policy, as described in the INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS.

INSTALLATION REQUIREMENTS FOR AFTERMARKET CATALYTIC CONVERTERS
EFFECTIVE BY FEDERAL POLICY, AUGUST 5, 1986
The following is the Federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the California Air Resources Board (CARB) regulations* for the proper installation of replacement catalytic converters:

1. Replacement catalytic converters may be installed only in situations as defined in the CONDITIONS FOR REPLACEMENT.

2. Replacement catalytic converters must be installed in the same location as the original converter.

3. Replacement catalytic converters must be the same type of converter as the original converter (i.e., oxidation, three-way, or three-way-plus oxidation);

4. Replacement catalytic converters must be the proper converter for the vehicle application as determined and specified by the manufacturer;

5. Replacement catalytic converters must be connected properly to any existing air injection or temperature or oxygen sensing components on the vehicle.

6. Replacement catalytic converters must be installed with all the other required converters for the particular application if more than one converter was installed originally by the vehicle manufacturer; or in the case of new aftermarket converters, if more than one converter was specified by the converter manufacturer;

7. Installers must complete the INSTALLER’S WARRANTY SHEET, and sign it, as also the vehicle owner.
*VIOLATIONS of one or more of these installation requirements could result in the installer being liable for a penalty of up to $25,000 for each violation, under provisions set forth in the EPA tampering prohibition law specified in Section 203 of the Clean Air Act, 42 US Code, Section 7522, amended in 1990, and under the CARB rules and regulations pertaining to aftermarket catalytic converters.