All This Shudder Business...
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All This Shudder Business...
Anyone notice the "who HASN"T had any problems" post only has 23 replies? That's not good, really.
I'm on my way to gettin' my rex. I have made it a point to "show" the dealer that I am VERY up on my info about this car. I sometimes scare salespeople when I correct them. Over and over. Of course this is in hopes of ultimately getting the best price; he knows he can't mess with me, I know my sh**.
My question: Should I grill my guy on the whole clutch shudder issue, which I am BOUND to have (it seems)? More specifically, has their shop been fixing it under warranty? Is this in my best interest? And are their other commonly known clutch/shifting issues? There seems to be a lot, judging by this forum.
What do I say/ask?
And really, doesn't all this seem a bit unaccceptable? I realize a lot of you guys are probably hard on your cars, but still....
I'm on my way to gettin' my rex. I have made it a point to "show" the dealer that I am VERY up on my info about this car. I sometimes scare salespeople when I correct them. Over and over. Of course this is in hopes of ultimately getting the best price; he knows he can't mess with me, I know my sh**.
My question: Should I grill my guy on the whole clutch shudder issue, which I am BOUND to have (it seems)? More specifically, has their shop been fixing it under warranty? Is this in my best interest? And are their other commonly known clutch/shifting issues? There seems to be a lot, judging by this forum.
What do I say/ask?
And really, doesn't all this seem a bit unaccceptable? I realize a lot of you guys are probably hard on your cars, but still....
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Remember, people without a problem are far, far less likely to complain, er, I mean put up positive feedback.
If you're getting a new wrx I'd guess the fix is inplace stock by now... but what do I know
. I don't think though that grilling the salesman will do you any good. Heck, most of the time sales guys don't have a clue about stuff like this... all they care about is making the sale. Most of the time their car knowledge is less than your great-great-great grandmother's car knowledge.
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If you're getting a new wrx I'd guess the fix is inplace stock by now... but what do I know
. I don't think though that grilling the salesman will do you any good. Heck, most of the time sales guys don't have a clue about stuff like this... all they care about is making the sale. Most of the time their car knowledge is less than your great-great-great grandmother's car knowledge.jason
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Consider me a noob.... I have heard about all of this clutch shudder problems, but have yet to figure out what exactly it is. If it's not too much to ask... can someone explain to me in simple words the symptoms and what to look for about this clutch shudder problem? I bought my '03 in May 2003. I just want to know if I should be having this problem and how will I know if I have the problem. Thanks in advance.
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Jamester, you are not "bound" to have clutch shudder since the problem was corrected before the 04s came out. Also, what you say to the salesman on the lot has no bearing on the final price you pay. Just shop for the best deal, most areas have at least one Subaru dealer that is easy to work with. Most WRXs around here go for pretty close to invoice price.
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Has it been officially documented that the shudder problem has been corrected? I have read complaints that Subaru knows about the problem but DIDN'T fix anything for '04. I am aware of the TSB- is this only for pre '04's?
As for the dealer, I know his word doesn't mean diddly once the sale is complete; I guess my point was whether or not I should inquire about it, or just wait and see if I get it.
Thanks for the help!
james
As for the dealer, I know his word doesn't mean diddly once the sale is complete; I guess my point was whether or not I should inquire about it, or just wait and see if I get it.
Thanks for the help!
james
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Originally posted by JUNNEL20
Consider me a noob.... I have heard about all of this clutch shudder problems, but have yet to figure out what exactly it is. If it's not too much to ask... can someone explain to me in simple words the symptoms and what to look for about this clutch shudder problem? I bought my '03 in May 2003. I just want to know if I should be having this problem and how will I know if I have the problem. Thanks in advance.
Consider me a noob.... I have heard about all of this clutch shudder problems, but have yet to figure out what exactly it is. If it's not too much to ask... can someone explain to me in simple words the symptoms and what to look for about this clutch shudder problem? I bought my '03 in May 2003. I just want to know if I should be having this problem and how will I know if I have the problem. Thanks in advance.
Imagine if you were sloppy or lazy in engaging the clutch and instead of just jerking the engine and transmission around the clutch actually started skipping on the flywheel and went thud-thud-thud-thud. If you get it, you'll know the difference. Its just doesn't feel right... well, until you get used to it
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Originally posted by jamester
Has it been officially documented that the shudder problem has been corrected? I have read complaints that Subaru knows about the problem but DIDN'T fix anything for '04. I am aware of the TSB- is this only for pre '04's?
As for the dealer, I know his word doesn't mean diddly once the sale is complete; I guess my point was whether or not I should inquire about it, or just wait and see if I get it.
Thanks for the help!
james
Has it been officially documented that the shudder problem has been corrected? I have read complaints that Subaru knows about the problem but DIDN'T fix anything for '04. I am aware of the TSB- is this only for pre '04's?
As for the dealer, I know his word doesn't mean diddly once the sale is complete; I guess my point was whether or not I should inquire about it, or just wait and see if I get it.
Thanks for the help!
james
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