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Kean,
Whats your story? You post all over these broken trans threads. Have you had any problems with yours? You work for SOA? Just wondering because you seem to enjoy shutting people up.
Whats your story? You post all over these broken trans threads. Have you had any problems with yours? You work for SOA? Just wondering because you seem to enjoy shutting people up.
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Originally posted by t-wrexxx
Kean,
Whats your story? You post all over these broken trans threads. Have you had any problems with yours? You work for SOA? Just wondering because you seem to enjoy shutting people up.
Kean,
Whats your story? You post all over these broken trans threads. Have you had any problems with yours? You work for SOA? Just wondering because you seem to enjoy shutting people up.
The last thing I want to do is shut people up (that's not my intention). I just wanted to show that there may be more to the story than what people see in these posts. I guess I got tired of seeing folks come on to these forums and join the "defective design/glass tranny" band wagon without considering that some of these claims are from people who abuse their vehicles (or possible do).
btw, I don't work for SOA. .......and I haven't had any breakage issues with my particular transmission.
- Kean
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Originally posted by Kean
Hi t-wrexxx,
The last thing I want to do is shut people up (that's not my intention). I just wanted to show that there may be more to the story than what people see in these posts. I guess I got tired of seeing folks come on to these forums and join the "defective design/glass tranny" band wagon without considering that some of these claims are from people who abuse their vehicles (or possible do).
btw, I don't work for SOA. .......and I haven't had any breakage issues with my particular transmission.
- Kean
Hi t-wrexxx,
The last thing I want to do is shut people up (that's not my intention). I just wanted to show that there may be more to the story than what people see in these posts. I guess I got tired of seeing folks come on to these forums and join the "defective design/glass tranny" band wagon without considering that some of these claims are from people who abuse their vehicles (or possible do).
btw, I don't work for SOA. .......and I haven't had any breakage issues with my particular transmission.
- Kean
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I agree that 90% of these broken transmission claims are from user abuse. I also think that of the 10% that are actual valid breakages, half of those customers are denied legitimate claims because of the other 90%. It sucks.
But no offense was intended, and I apologise if that is the way that it was taken.
But no offense was intended, and I apologise if that is the way that it was taken.
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Originally posted by t-wrexxx
I agree that 90% of these broken transmission claims are from user abuse. I also think that of the 10% that are actual valid breakages, half of those customers are denied legitimate claims because of the other 90%. It sucks.
But no offense was intended, and I apologise if that is the way that it was taken.
I agree that 90% of these broken transmission claims are from user abuse. I also think that of the 10% that are actual valid breakages, half of those customers are denied legitimate claims because of the other 90%. It sucks.
But no offense was intended, and I apologise if that is the way that it was taken.
I agree it sucks when folks with legitimate claims get denied. What percentage this works out to be, we may never know and I'm not even going to guess. What I do know is that there are members on these forums who cry foul yet have proven to be abusive with their vehicles (and/or they're not always telling the whole story). Folks who abuse the system certainly don't help those who are just looking for a fair shake when they go in for warranty repairs. However, I don't believe this excuse should give SOA carte blanche to deny every claim by calling it abuse (if that's in fact what they're doing).
I try to keep an objective view in these types of debates. Whether or not there is a true issue with the build quality/design of the Subaru 5MT has yet to be proven. The jury is still out (in my opinion).
- Kean
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Well thats just the bad luck. If 90% of anything breaking was because of abuse. Wouldnt you think that they would start takeing a closer look at it and start being alittle more carefull about whose parts they are replaceing. I would cost them too much money if they just started replaceing all the parts that were broke because of abuse. So there just being carefull. Cant blame them for that now can you?
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Why the hell doesnt Subaru just come up with a new 5MT or just put the sti 6spd in all their cars, it will save them and us alot of money and hassle!
There isnt anything wrong with the 5 speed trans.
Well thats just the bad luck. If 90% of anything breaking was because of abuse. Wouldnt you think that they would start takeing a closer look at it and start being alittle more carefull about whose parts they are replaceing. I would cost them too much money if they just started replaceing all the parts that were broke because of abuse. So there just being carefull. Cant blame them for that now can you?
If that is true, then they are not being careful. They are being cheap weasels.
Im trying to get a copy. If I do, you will all know about it very quickly.
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T-Wrex I have to disagree with your last statement
Putting the six speed Sti transmission termed as "bulletproof" by some, in the standard WRX would not only give the car a 6MT that would help compete with the Acura RSX's TypeS, but also ensure that future repairs are kept to a minimum. I think Subaru could justify putting the better transmission in the WRX by making it an option rather than a standard component, or just make it standard equipment and raise the price accordingly.
I think the 5MT in the WRX is decent for an economy car, but not up to the standards of a sports car. It's arguable whether the WRX is a sports car or economy, but it has to be said that Honda or Toyota could build a stronger tranny and probably for less $.
Also: choosing to baby or abuse the car is the driver's choice and the consequences should be known to someone who drivers it like they stole it. The WRX/Sti is a solid car but isn't built to take a lot of abuse.
Putting the six speed Sti transmission termed as "bulletproof" by some, in the standard WRX would not only give the car a 6MT that would help compete with the Acura RSX's TypeS, but also ensure that future repairs are kept to a minimum. I think Subaru could justify putting the better transmission in the WRX by making it an option rather than a standard component, or just make it standard equipment and raise the price accordingly.
I think the 5MT in the WRX is decent for an economy car, but not up to the standards of a sports car. It's arguable whether the WRX is a sports car or economy, but it has to be said that Honda or Toyota could build a stronger tranny and probably for less $.
Also: choosing to baby or abuse the car is the driver's choice and the consequences should be known to someone who drivers it like they stole it. The WRX/Sti is a solid car but isn't built to take a lot of abuse.
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Originally posted by thebankman
Also: choosing to baby or abuse the car is the driver's choice and the consequences should be known to someone who drivers it like they stole it. The WRX/Sti is a solid car but isn't built to take a lot of abuse.
Also: choosing to baby or abuse the car is the driver's choice and the consequences should be known to someone who drivers it like they stole it. The WRX/Sti is a solid car but isn't built to take a lot of abuse.
- Kean
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Originally posted by Imprezer
Kean, hehe, that was pretty cool.
I am anti-warrany-scaming. 150% so.
You play, you pay.
Short, simple and to the point. Don't like it, keep your car stock and sleep well.
Kean, hehe, that was pretty cool.
I am anti-warrany-scaming. 150% so.
You play, you pay.
Short, simple and to the point. Don't like it, keep your car stock and sleep well.
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