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Most states that have some E85 infrastructure in place are seeing prices that are 20-25 cents less per gallon for E85 compared to 87 octane regular unleaded.
"On average, E85 is about 25 cents lower in price than regular gasoline on a per-gallon basis, with the largest average differential (29 cents) being found in the Midwest."
"On average, E85 is about 25 cents lower in price than regular gasoline on a per-gallon basis, with the largest average differential (29 cents) being found in the Midwest."
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Originally Posted by psoper
Actually the performance shouldn't get hurt as much as the fuel economy- E85 has only like 65% as much energy per unit volume compared to gasoline, but at 105 octane I think you can run higher boost without detonation if tuned right on E85.
this is what gets me on this. Hey use this fuel source because it's better for the environment and its cheaper per gallon. But if you really look at it your mpg goes down so your gallon useage goes up so it's actually not cheaper and it's actually not that much better for the environment because you're burning more of it.
It's like some of the additives they've stuck in over the last few years. It's better for the environment but my mileage goes down 10% so I burn more fuel.
PRINCETON, Illinois – Wednesday night 8 On Your Side partnered with the Bureau Valley Republican to put regular octane gasoline and E85 to the test.
Piehl Chevrolet in Princeton, Illinois loaned us two identical 2006 Chevy Silverado trucks, one filled with regular gas, the other with E85. We raced the trucks around the dirt track at the Bureau Valley Fairgrounds until they ran out of gas.
E85 is cheaper at the pump, but gets less gas mileage than regular unleaded. We wanted to find out the flex-fuel is really a bargain in the long run.
The gas was carefully measured, 2 gallons each, into identical trucks. The only difference was the color. The black Silverado was filled with regular gas; the white one was filled with E85.
Greg Piehl owns Piehl Chevrolet. His technicians helped us standardize our test, "We had the technicians drain the tanks, put the exact same amount in. So, it should be a pretty fair comparison."
For an hour and a half, each truck did laps going 35 miles-per-hour. The first truck to run out of gas was the one filled with E85.16 laps later, the truck filled with regular gasoline came to a stop.
There are many different ways you could calculate the math. According to AAA gas gauge, the average price for a gallon of gas is $2.85. Compare that to what we paid for E85 – $2.21.
Our truck running on gasoline got 28 miles-per-gallon. The truck with E85 ended up with a little over 25 miles-per-gallon.
So, if you fill up your car with E85 and travel 180 miles going 35 miles-per-hour, you'll save just over two dollars compared to filling up with regular gasoline.
David Miller with Ag View Farm Services works with E85 for a living. He says it’s clear at the pump, people are interested in E85, "We're currently selling approximately 4,000 gallons every seven days. So, there's no question it's picked up. A lot of people are very interested in it, obviously with the high prices this summer."
Hi co-worker Clement Weborg adds E85 could help the U.S. become less dependent on foreign oil, “It's an american-made product. Economics are virtually identical."
Even though E85 is less cash at the pumps, there are less pumps where you can buy the gas and not every vehicle is designed for E85 fuel. But, more vehicles are being made to accept the flex-fuel.
Some say that will help everyone in the long run. Piehl points out, "You're able to support the farm industry with the corn industry. So, I think it will catch on, but I think there needs to be some more stations out there. There needs to be more availability."
There are gas stations scattered around Illinois and Iowa selling E85, but the only ones close to our area are located in Princeton, Morrison, and West Burlington.
Another thing to point out – E85 gets worse mileage on the interstate, usually only 17 to 18 miles-per-gallon.
Piehl Chevrolet in Princeton, Illinois loaned us two identical 2006 Chevy Silverado trucks, one filled with regular gas, the other with E85. We raced the trucks around the dirt track at the Bureau Valley Fairgrounds until they ran out of gas.
E85 is cheaper at the pump, but gets less gas mileage than regular unleaded. We wanted to find out the flex-fuel is really a bargain in the long run.
The gas was carefully measured, 2 gallons each, into identical trucks. The only difference was the color. The black Silverado was filled with regular gas; the white one was filled with E85.
Greg Piehl owns Piehl Chevrolet. His technicians helped us standardize our test, "We had the technicians drain the tanks, put the exact same amount in. So, it should be a pretty fair comparison."
For an hour and a half, each truck did laps going 35 miles-per-hour. The first truck to run out of gas was the one filled with E85.16 laps later, the truck filled with regular gasoline came to a stop.
There are many different ways you could calculate the math. According to AAA gas gauge, the average price for a gallon of gas is $2.85. Compare that to what we paid for E85 – $2.21.
Our truck running on gasoline got 28 miles-per-gallon. The truck with E85 ended up with a little over 25 miles-per-gallon.
So, if you fill up your car with E85 and travel 180 miles going 35 miles-per-hour, you'll save just over two dollars compared to filling up with regular gasoline.
David Miller with Ag View Farm Services works with E85 for a living. He says it’s clear at the pump, people are interested in E85, "We're currently selling approximately 4,000 gallons every seven days. So, there's no question it's picked up. A lot of people are very interested in it, obviously with the high prices this summer."
Hi co-worker Clement Weborg adds E85 could help the U.S. become less dependent on foreign oil, “It's an american-made product. Economics are virtually identical."
Even though E85 is less cash at the pumps, there are less pumps where you can buy the gas and not every vehicle is designed for E85 fuel. But, more vehicles are being made to accept the flex-fuel.
Some say that will help everyone in the long run. Piehl points out, "You're able to support the farm industry with the corn industry. So, I think it will catch on, but I think there needs to be some more stations out there. There needs to be more availability."
There are gas stations scattered around Illinois and Iowa selling E85, but the only ones close to our area are located in Princeton, Morrison, and West Burlington.
Another thing to point out – E85 gets worse mileage on the interstate, usually only 17 to 18 miles-per-gallon.
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