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Old May 10, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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guys its 'inarticulate'
Old May 10, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by doodoobrown
Not trying to be an ***, but I don't understund how anyone cannot afford it given that there are also so many assistance programs and grants available.
+1

i work at cal state hayward.

and the person who is running the scholarship program is a little confused.

over $5k of scholarships are offered and there are little response. some, there arent even any applicants...

i guess people just want money handed to them...
Old May 10, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mcowger
The price of a college education has FAR outstripped the rate of inflation. Just because your father could do it is not a reliable indicator that it can be done now.
True... things are very different now vs 1965.

However, I still believe that there are many ways for lower income students to pay for a college education. They certainly won't be getting to go to Harvard, but hell, 2 years at a community college + 2 years up at a decent state school will still get you a diploma and won't cost an arm and a leg. Add low interest school loans, scholarships, grants, and a decent job (starbucks ) and it is *very* doable.
Old May 10, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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^^^
also... if these kids stop buying crap like platinum "grills"



maybe they can afford the tuition
Old May 10, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Yin
guys its 'inarticulate'
Based on the entry at dictionary.com, it appears that "unarticulate" is a synonym to inarticulate.

I wonder if this is one of those words that was added to the dictionary not because it's an actual word, but rather because so many people used it that it got added (like "irregardless").
Old May 10, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Yin
guys its 'inarticulate'

It's BOTH! Hahaha...actually I was using that because in the context it made my posts funnier...
Old May 10, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Yin
guys its 'inarticulate'
Hey, I even checked here:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=unarticulate
Old May 10, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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ah crap, it is both. lol. but i never learned unarticulate
Old May 10, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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Education benifits everyone in society...

I'd rather fund more education than prisons.
Old May 11, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by doodoobrown
True... things are very different now vs 1965.

However, I still believe that there are many ways for lower income students to pay for a college education. They certainly won't be getting to go to Harvard, but hell, 2 years at a community college + 2 years up at a decent state school will still get you a diploma and won't cost an arm and a leg. Add low interest school loans, scholarships, grants, and a decent job (starbucks ) and it is *very* doable.

The average annual salary in America (adjusted for inflation based off 1998 dollars) rose from $32,522 in 1970 to $35,864 in 1999, an approximately 10% increase over a period of 29 years.

Just an example of a private school in the area: Stanford University tuition rose from approximately $21K in 1997 to $29,847 in 2003, a 42% increase in a period of 7 years.

It's getting tougher and tougher to pay for private colleges or any colleges for that matter. Though I agree that education should be made available to all (i.e. the argument for free education), with the current set up, attending college can still be accomplished. As previously mentioned, loans, work-study programs, scholarships, grants, etc. are all readily available - just takes a little more effort on the part of the student to make it happen. On that note, perhaps it's an extra step in the admission the top universities to find the student who wants to learn that much more that he/she is willing to put in the extra 5-10 minutes to fill out a scholarship application, a financial aid application, etc.
Old May 11, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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With the above said, however, you could argue that because it is getting harder and harder to pay for college educations, a free education system is definitely something that is a must.

Education is proven to lead the way to higher paying jobs: For example (an extravaggant one), during the same period as mentioned above (1970 - 1999), the average annual compensation for a top CEO rose from $1.3 million (39 times the pay of the average worker) to $37.5 million (+100K times higher pay than the average worker)...

So free education financed by the ones who can afford it the most...? (Although unfortunately the population earning the top 5% of annual compensation may lead lifestyles that require it's post-tax earnings to be of a certain level where they would not be able to afford to pay higher taxes for free education systems... )
Old May 11, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rat
I'd rather fund more education than prisons.
Yes, educated criminals could do some real van damage!!!! Good idea!

Hmmmm does "educated criminals" make anyone else think of Gas Company Executives ????
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