What is the best WAX for black paint!?!?
11-14-2010, 06:40 AM
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What is the best WAX for black paint!?!?
So my car was feeling a bit rough(paint) and i decided to clay bar the motha ****a and it came out sweet! Took all the texture off and feels smooth!! Now I want to wax it but was wondering what you guys use for your dark paints, what wax should i buy?
PS... When exactly do you polish a car?
my brother who works at a detail dept at
a dealership gave me a **** load of polish
but im not quiet sure of when to use it. More like after what step? do I polish after wax? before wax?
PS... When exactly do you polish a car?
my brother who works at a detail dept at
a dealership gave me a **** load of polish
but im not quiet sure of when to use it. More like after what step? do I polish after wax? before wax?
11-14-2010, 10:59 AM
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the paint results is based more on prep than on product. ive had great luck with megs 105/205 for polish. PC7424 and a whole day of work. after that my wax is based on time of year and weather.
11-14-2010, 03:23 PM
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i hate directing to other sites but nasioc has some really good writeups,products reviews and step by step threads. not knowing what your doing can make a simple fix a major problem real fast.
2 buckets wash method
clay
address problem spots and fix as needed.
quality wax
on the cheap mothers and megs actually have really good stuff. detailersdomain has good offers on pkg deals.
ive made my car SHINE in a solid day worth of work.
2 buckets wash method
clay
address problem spots and fix as needed.
quality wax
on the cheap mothers and megs actually have really good stuff. detailersdomain has good offers on pkg deals.
ive made my car SHINE in a solid day worth of work.
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When to use polish?
Usually after claybar. It helps if you have a machine. I am probably not the best person to describe it, but, work the polish into the paint until it is translucent, then wipe it off. The order of the types of polish is more cut (aggressive) to more fine.
Here's a video kind of demonstrating how to do it.
http://www.adamspolishes.com/t-Videos_DVD5_14.aspx
Apply wax after polishing. Apply multiple layers for additional protection.
As for which wax to use... that is totally up to you. Nation is correct saying a lot of the end result is from how you do your prep work. It is called detailing for a reason, but back to the question on hand.
First of all... cheap wax is better than NO WAX. With that says, what you want is going to depend on: 1. your price range, 2. how much work you want to apply it, and 3. your planned use of your car.
Paste vs. liquid: Paste is more durable (more resistant to the elements) and will usually give a better result than liquid wax. However, most paste waxes must usually be applied by hand. Wax on, wax off. Liquid waxes are much easier to deal with, can be applied by hand, or a machine if you have one, but usually are not as durable, or have as good of an end result. Those waxes in a spray bottle, have even less shine and durability, but like I said before, if you need wax or are short on time, some wax is better than no wax.
The second thing you might want to consider is if you want to use a wax or a sealant. Sealants, you use exactly like wax, but are usually more durable. Designed to last longer, and are usually in a liquid format.
So, here is what I use: (I said recommend earlier, and was rereading it.)
P21S Concours Wax - paste wax, relatively priced, $35, you won't run out for awhile. Easy to apply, but you have to do in sections. Wax on, wax off.
Menzera Power Lock - sealant, great stuff, I love this stuff, super easy to put on, super easy to get off. Just easy to use. About $30 for 16oz bottle.
Adam's Buttery Wax - Wax, liquid, easy to use, can't go wrong, but I prefer the previous 2.
Yeah... Hope that helps.
Usually after claybar. It helps if you have a machine. I am probably not the best person to describe it, but, work the polish into the paint until it is translucent, then wipe it off. The order of the types of polish is more cut (aggressive) to more fine.
Here's a video kind of demonstrating how to do it.
http://www.adamspolishes.com/t-Videos_DVD5_14.aspx
Apply wax after polishing. Apply multiple layers for additional protection.
As for which wax to use... that is totally up to you. Nation is correct saying a lot of the end result is from how you do your prep work. It is called detailing for a reason, but back to the question on hand.
First of all... cheap wax is better than NO WAX. With that says, what you want is going to depend on: 1. your price range, 2. how much work you want to apply it, and 3. your planned use of your car.
Paste vs. liquid: Paste is more durable (more resistant to the elements) and will usually give a better result than liquid wax. However, most paste waxes must usually be applied by hand. Wax on, wax off. Liquid waxes are much easier to deal with, can be applied by hand, or a machine if you have one, but usually are not as durable, or have as good of an end result. Those waxes in a spray bottle, have even less shine and durability, but like I said before, if you need wax or are short on time, some wax is better than no wax.
The second thing you might want to consider is if you want to use a wax or a sealant. Sealants, you use exactly like wax, but are usually more durable. Designed to last longer, and are usually in a liquid format.
So, here is what I use: (I said recommend earlier, and was rereading it.)
P21S Concours Wax - paste wax, relatively priced, $35, you won't run out for awhile. Easy to apply, but you have to do in sections. Wax on, wax off.
Menzera Power Lock - sealant, great stuff, I love this stuff, super easy to put on, super easy to get off. Just easy to use. About $30 for 16oz bottle.
Adam's Buttery Wax - Wax, liquid, easy to use, can't go wrong, but I prefer the previous 2.
Yeah... Hope that helps.
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11-14-2010, 09:48 PM
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before you even consider picking up a polisher ask yourself couple of questions and the condition of your car...
- what's the condition of the paint? new or aftermarket?
- what are you trying to achieve? perfect or just good improvement?
- how many hours are you willing to spend
- do you have good environment and lighting?
- are you going to be able to keep up the paint after the correction/polish?
as some have said, polish is what makes it shine, and good wash is what keeps it shine... But if you don't have the time, skill, environment, setup, to polish the paint, you might have to either take it to a professional or consider alternatives...
- what's the condition of the paint? new or aftermarket?
- what are you trying to achieve? perfect or just good improvement?
- how many hours are you willing to spend
- do you have good environment and lighting?
- are you going to be able to keep up the paint after the correction/polish?
as some have said, polish is what makes it shine, and good wash is what keeps it shine... But if you don't have the time, skill, environment, setup, to polish the paint, you might have to either take it to a professional or consider alternatives...
11-14-2010, 10:22 PM
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Definitely takes time for a great detail... It takes me a good 6-7 hours to detail my car, there are a lot of steps, and you have to be patient. If your looking for great products, look into Detail Addict products.. I use their line of products, and have had amazing outcomes, for my car and many others i have detailed....
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