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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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Well since I wasn't able to watch Diaz vs Condit, apparently there's going to be a rematch between the two very soon.
Condit stepped up and said he's down to do it again for the title... BEFORE GSP.

Apparently GSP is still recovering so someone is gonna have to fight in the meantime and both Condit/Diaz have been promised GSP.

But Diaz said he'd retire. Hopefully if they do it again Condit will be pissed and will stop running around and Diaz will realize he can't win a decision and will actually try and finish him before the 5th round.

I'd like to see it. Everyone knows Condit isn't ready for GSP.... even Condit.
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Diaz failed his drug test. Apparently tested positive for marijuana. So much for the rematch and his UFC career.
Old Feb 9, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxBRAH
Diaz failed his drug test. Apparently tested positive for marijuana. So much for the rematch and his UFC career.
LOL!

This won't effect anything. Period. And it most certainly will have ZERO effect on his long term UFC career.

He is looking at a possible fine and possible SUSPENSION. It really only has effect on his work in LAS VEGAS! He can't fight anywhere else he wants whenever he wants outside the UFC. If he is suspended he can serve the suspension basically between fights and undergo a treatment. He won't be the first fighter to have to do it.

Beyond that, testing for THC is STUPID. It has zero positive effect on anything related to fighting and it's illegal status has continued to lessen in severity.

He never agreed to the rematch anyways. He doesn't care for the UFC in general so I wouldn't be surprised to see him walk away for a couple years again... you'll notice he did that for 5 years before while he dominated all over the world.

The only problem is that the UFC if buying everything up (which someone needs to put a stop to). So his opportunities are getting slimmer outside the UFC. But I don't think he cares.


He reminds me of Ricky Williams and the anti-weed policies of the NFL cost us YEARS of watching one of the best backs of all time. I honestly don't care if they smoke weed. It has no effect on the competitive side of the game.






So yeah... if anything this puts a Condit vs. GSP fight back on the table as it was probably going to be anyways. After GSP mops the floor with Condit they'll offer a rematch to Diaz if he meets their demands. While that's happening GSP will probably have to fight someone else. Win or loose I'd be willing to bet that GSP will try to get a fight with Diaz next summer after all this crap blows over.


But who knows. It's all up to Diaz.

This whole weed thing is literally a bump on the road and most certainly won't end his career with the UFC. As long as they can make money off him they'll find a way to let him fight.
Old Feb 9, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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Well at least now he can do what he always dreamed of, to switch to a boxing career fighting has-beens.
Old Feb 9, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxBRAH
Diaz failed his drug test. Apparently tested positive for marijuana. So much for the rematch and his UFC career.
AGAIN?! Man, whatta chump. One of his biggest victories was ruled a No Contest for the same thing a few years ago (when he gogplata'd a prime Gomi). Diaz really doesn't learn; part of being a professional is, well, being professional! He's got great talent as a fighter, but man, I don't get why he can't/won't clean up his act.
Old Feb 9, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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Weed aint ****... Now let's see the pinche rematch..
Old Feb 10, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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Weed aint ****... Now let's see the pinche rematch..
To him its now cost anywhere from $80k-$500k due to suspensions/pending suspensions, so if that much $$$$ "ain't **** " to you, hello 1%.
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To him its now cost anywhere from $80k-$500k due to suspensions/pending suspensions, so if that much $$$$ "ain't **** " to you, hello 1%.
We'll see.

I think it funny that a guy gets slammed for weed yet there's people sliding by taking actual performance enhancers. The testing system is a joke. If you're setting out to cheat you can do cleaner rounds and time everything to be clean.
Old Feb 10, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Choku Dori
AGAIN?! Man, whatta chump. One of his biggest victories was ruled a No Contest for the same thing a few years ago (when he gogplata'd a prime Gomi). Diaz really doesn't learn; part of being a professional is, well, being professional! He's got great talent as a fighter, but man, I don't get why he can't/won't clean up his act.
Probably the same reason that Ricky Williams didn't. Some people have a different view on it. Ricky had serious anxiety issues and the weed helped him deal with it. The NFL's retarded policies screwed up the career of one of the best backs of all time. To me... if you're doing it legally it should be legal in the sport. Have a card... let them do it. It is NOT classified as a performance enhancer.

I am not a supporter of it. I hate the stuff. I've seen the effects it can have on people with certain personalities. But it does seem to help some folks. Maybe there's something off in Diaz's head and it levels the dude out so he can actually concentrate. Would he be penalized for being on prozac which has WAY more damaging side effects than weed?

I was a big time hater when Ricky went through this. I mean what kind of idiot throws away an outrageously high paying job doing what they love doing so they can smoke weed. But after the years passed I'm starting to understand how some personalities are not equipped to deal with the pressures of fame. You'll notice the parallels to diaz are uncanny. They both hate that part of the job but you put them on the field/ring and they're as good as anyone. Taking away what helps them manage is in essence taking it away from them. It's not so much their choice.

Does removing weed tests from the tests open the door for other things coming out. Not really. I think people are so scared of these mysterious flood gates open that it stops changes that may need to happen. IT's the same thing with the legal issue.

To me... if they have a card. **** it.

I'd be more worried if he had cocaine or alcohol in his blood at the time of the fight. And Diaz NEVER promotes the use of it. People love to hate on the dude but it seems that in the important parts he's as professional as anyone.
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He might be able to get out of it if he appeals and hires someone decent. He ingests marijuana seed oil from what I understand. Its a common practice and it will give false positives on the drug test even though it doesnt give you a high and gives you health/digestive benefits.

That said we know he smokes weed. He doesnt give a **** and imo neither should the Athletic commision but rules are rules and he will more than likely be suspended and fined.

Imo Nick suffers from anxiety and possibly even a mental disorder and Im sure weed mellows him out. Hes not exactly on Danas list of favorite fighters because of his antics which probably stem from the above mentioned illness but he does bring in money. I dont think Dana will cut him because Nick sells PPVs but he will be suspended for sure.

Who knows though, Dana already warned him once about Maryjane so if he does get let go, I wouldnt be shocked.
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I think you're probably right.

My hope is that watching what happened to Ricky in the NFL, Dana will make some better decisions and start making some policy changes and doing some work with the athletic commissions.
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Well the Athletic commision is asking the public for help in deciding what changes to make to the reffing/scoring/rules in general. There was a big thread about it on Sherdog and even Dana has been commenting on it lately.

The entire system needs to be overhauled. MMA shouldnt be bunched up with boxing. Its a shame anytime I see Cecil Peoples judging, all Im thinking is "I wonder who's gonna get screwed over tonite"
Old Feb 10, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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Uhh, scoring should be based on damage. Period. If you take someone down, great, but you need to do damage, not just lay on 'em. MMA is all about injuring someone, not taking them down. Sure it counts someone, since you got a "take down" but that's different than slamming someone down, or hurting them while you're on the ground.

Who landed the best shots and did the most damage? Was it the couple of hard shots? Or the 20 light shots the other guy did? Give points to attempting + escaping submissions or counter submissions.
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Originally Posted by iLoqin
Uhh, scoring should be based on damage. Period. If you take someone down, great, but you need to do damage, not just lay on 'em. MMA is all about injuring someone, not taking them down. Sure it counts someone, since you got a "take down" but that's different than slamming someone down, or hurting them while you're on the ground.

Who landed the best shots and did the most damage? Was it the couple of hard shots? Or the 20 light shots the other guy did? Give points to attempting + escaping submissions or counter submissions.
I don't think it's scoring take downs that's bad. when you can take someone down and control them that's a good thing.

I think the problem is how little value they put in STUFFING take downs. And they value the take down too much. It's like... oh he got a take down that round and the other guy didn't... he wins. But sometimes that's all it is. A take down. They get back up or they lay there and do nothing...etc. A take down for the sake of a take down should not be valued so high....

It's the balance.
Old Feb 10, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
We'll see.

I think it funny that a guy gets slammed for weed yet there's people sliding by taking actual performance enhancers. The testing system is a joke. If you're setting out to cheat you can do cleaner rounds and time everything to be clean.
Sure, if its a one time thing, but for repeat offenders...C'mon son.



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