Tactical/Emergency Vest Setups
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I'd love to see anyone on this board - hoof it up any hill carrying old.guy's suggest loadout. Just a single AR and ONE Barrett .50 is 40+ lbs, much less adding another .50 rifle, your Springfield (M1A? 1911?), and all the ammo you have for all of those weapons.
If/when SHTF, public roads are not going to be usable, so don't bother telling me you'll have it in your truck/car/motorcycle sidecar/whatever.
I myself plan to shelter in place if possible, and travel light if not. I'm prepared for either. Lots of opinions in this thread, and mine's just one of them. Take it or leave it, I don't care.
If/when SHTF, public roads are not going to be usable, so don't bother telling me you'll have it in your truck/car/motorcycle sidecar/whatever.
I myself plan to shelter in place if possible, and travel light if not. I'm prepared for either. Lots of opinions in this thread, and mine's just one of them. Take it or leave it, I don't care.
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Deer season != disaster scenario
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The point I was making is, anyone, even out of shape, can carry a resonable size BOB and rifle/other gear and make it out of an area.
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"So you are hoping they [potential enemy] are deaf and have allergies so that they cant hear/smell 400lb worth of remf huffing and puffing toward them?"
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Me, I hike them out, and engage hostile forces if I must, preferably at a distance with a good scoped rifle where I have the advantage of height/distance/cover. Disengage as soon as posible and hump it out of the area PDQ.
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Ok, so what is your solution, you can't shelter in place, you have hostile forces (looters and such) all over the place, you have yourself, 2 other adults, and 2 dogs to deal with, and a 3-4 day hike to get anywhere remotely safe.
Me, I hike them out, and engage hostile forces if I must, preferably at a distance with a good scoped rifle where I have the advantage of height/distance/cover. Disengage as soon as posible and hump it out of the area PDQ.
Me, I hike them out, and engage hostile forces if I must, preferably at a distance with a good scoped rifle where I have the advantage of height/distance/cover. Disengage as soon as posible and hump it out of the area PDQ.
With three semi-competent shooters, in a fortified position with "home field" advantage, I'd stay put.
Bad guys always go after easy prey, and since you live in Marin County, there are plenty of Liberal/Socialist dumbies that are UNARMED and thus, much more inviting.
Remember, air bags can made into claymore mines.
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Ok, so what is your solution, you can't shelter in place, you have hostile forces (looters and such) all over the place, you have yourself, 2 other adults, and 2 dogs to deal with, and a 3-4 day hike to get anywhere remotely safe.
Me, I hike them out, and engage hostile forces if I must, preferably at a distance with a good scoped rifle where I have the advantage of height/distance/cover. Disengage as soon as posible and hump it out of the area PDQ.
Me, I hike them out, and engage hostile forces if I must, preferably at a distance with a good scoped rifle where I have the advantage of height/distance/cover. Disengage as soon as posible and hump it out of the area PDQ.
aint that the truth. im a little heavier than i like but during deer season i packed a buck plus pack and rifle over 32 miles. its all about how bad you want it. i wasnt about to loose my deer to a ****ing bear.
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How long did that little hike take you to complete?
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Depends on where you live, the surrounding area, terrain, etc. etc.
With three semi-competent shooters, in a fortified position with "home field" advantage, I'd stay put.
Bad guys always go after easy prey, and since you live in Marin County, there are plenty of Liberal/Socialist dumbies that are UNARMED and thus, much more inviting.
Remember, air bags can made into claymore mines.
With three semi-competent shooters, in a fortified position with "home field" advantage, I'd stay put.
Bad guys always go after easy prey, and since you live in Marin County, there are plenty of Liberal/Socialist dumbies that are UNARMED and thus, much more inviting.
Remember, air bags can made into claymore mines.
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I thought there was another thread entirely on a bug out bag But I would like to get back to the OP question on ideas for a tac style vest.
Unfortunately I cannot answer that question....LOL
Seriously on my tour to Iraq and subsequest tours to afghanistan we pretty much had almost a sponsorship type deal where multiple companys would send us crap to try out and then write reviews.
My load outs changed drastically depending on where I was going and what I was doing.
In a civilian type bug out for a vest it would be bare essentials. ammo water, dope beer whatever. A little heavier on the water aspect. as you dont know how long you will be without it.
I would also keep it as slim line as possible and concealable but thats just personal preferance.
Or a better idea is to kick the tac vest and get one of those high speed side man purses carry about 6 mags and a pistol and your pisol mags concealed. The put all food and other fancy schmancy stuff in your back pack.
What I learned during my 3 years of combat expierence 97 direct action raids, and 47 firefights lasting in duration from 20 seconds to 3 days is less is deffinately more. I had a guy tell me somthing one day that has stuck with me through all that. "In what you wear on your body (backpack not included) if you cant shoot it, drink it, eat it, or communiacate with it. Leave it in your backback"
Hope that helps.
Oh I just remembered you touched on medical stuff a little bit which happens to be my forte. 4 Cat tornequets, 4 Israli bandages, 2000 ML IV fluid and 6 IV sets, and a hemostatic agent. Theres other stuff you could push itreveinously but without immeadiate medical care it would do more harm that good. The SF medical handbook will illistrate how to perform pretty much any surgery for the lay person throw that in your back pack too.
Unfortunately I cannot answer that question....LOL
Seriously on my tour to Iraq and subsequest tours to afghanistan we pretty much had almost a sponsorship type deal where multiple companys would send us crap to try out and then write reviews.
My load outs changed drastically depending on where I was going and what I was doing.
In a civilian type bug out for a vest it would be bare essentials. ammo water, dope beer whatever. A little heavier on the water aspect. as you dont know how long you will be without it.
I would also keep it as slim line as possible and concealable but thats just personal preferance.
Or a better idea is to kick the tac vest and get one of those high speed side man purses carry about 6 mags and a pistol and your pisol mags concealed. The put all food and other fancy schmancy stuff in your back pack.
What I learned during my 3 years of combat expierence 97 direct action raids, and 47 firefights lasting in duration from 20 seconds to 3 days is less is deffinately more. I had a guy tell me somthing one day that has stuck with me through all that. "In what you wear on your body (backpack not included) if you cant shoot it, drink it, eat it, or communiacate with it. Leave it in your backback"
Hope that helps.
Oh I just remembered you touched on medical stuff a little bit which happens to be my forte. 4 Cat tornequets, 4 Israli bandages, 2000 ML IV fluid and 6 IV sets, and a hemostatic agent. Theres other stuff you could push itreveinously but without immeadiate medical care it would do more harm that good. The SF medical handbook will illistrate how to perform pretty much any surgery for the lay person throw that in your back pack too.
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^Big +1 on carrying multiple CAT tourniquets.
I would also add an NPA, Needle Decompression kit and chest seal (one could get away with using tape and a plastic bag for this). Some Fentanyl lollipops would be nice too.
I would also add an NPA, Needle Decompression kit and chest seal (one could get away with using tape and a plastic bag for this). Some Fentanyl lollipops would be nice too.
