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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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Street racing is like tryin to make America stop buying expensive Nike's because they're made in China or whatever, it isn't happenin', there are enough people who don't care and will buy and therefore those cheap shops overseas will always exist.

That sucks, but there are a lot more incidents of just street racing killing other people. Drunk drivers, etc... but lets be frank, people will always want to go fast against some other car. Lets talk about LOWERING the death toll from street racing... because theoretically there are enough retards out there that we won't be able to stop 100%.

Laws are in place for revoking and suspensions, and jail time and fines. The question is how to stop young people from their own Ego's? Some parts is instantaneous when lining up at a red light, others are the groups of people who drive out to run. In the end its the drivers who are choosing to do so, and the question is why? and how we can get it through to them that there are safe places to do so.

Then again there are a lot of law enforcement in place JUST for DUIs and people still do it. You can't get through ignorance.
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by iLoqin
Street racing is like tryin to make America stop buying expensive Nike's because they're made in China or whatever, it isn't happenin', there are enough people who don't care and will buy and therefore those cheap shops overseas will always exist.

That sucks, but there are a lot more incidents of just street racing killing other people. Drunk drivers, etc... but lets be frank, people will always want to go fast against some other car. Lets talk about LOWERING the death toll from street racing... because theoretically there are enough retards out there that we won't be able to stop 100%.

Laws are in place for revoking and suspensions, and jail time and fines. The question is how to stop young people from their own Ego's? Some parts is instantaneous when lining up at a red light, others are the groups of people who drive out to run. In the end its the drivers who are choosing to do so, and the question is why? and how we can get it through to them that there are safe places to do so.

Then again there are a lot of law enforcement in place JUST for DUIs and people still do it. You can't get through ignorance.
may be show death while racing and this will scare the **** of the youngsters. I saw 2 people die in front of my eyes when i was in college. street racing incident and i still remember it. Now if any one wants to race me i let him or her go ahead thinking it is not worth it as i have more to loose.
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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. I can think back even to the 80's, when I was in Highschool. We use to race all the time, but...we had one street we went to, no homes in the area only a farm, you could see for 2 miles from the center point in both directions, and the cops KNEW we did it. Hell they came down once in a while and watched. We knew better than to race on the freeway or in residential places and because of this, LEO's gave us a bit of leaway.
Heck even in the 90's in Dublin right where camp parks is when it was all desolate the cops really didnt mind what was going on out here. As far as the bay goes i am probably the millionth person to say I wish Baylands was still open. That would be a great place and I think they would do a ton of business, and I think it would get kids off the streets racing illeagally. Maybe I am a bad person for doing this but back in the day it used to be all about the stop light to stoplight races but there was no where near the amount of traffic out there and it wasnt as dangerous. What sucks is you cant even chance trying to have a conservative stop light run because you never know how crazy the other douche is going to drive. It sucks that people got hurt and get hurt. It brings down the actual car enthusiest world and makes us all look irresponsible.
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by iLoqin
Street racing is like tryin to make America stop buying expensive Nike's because they're made in China or whatever, it isn't happenin', there are enough people who don't care and will buy and therefore those cheap shops overseas will always exist.

That sucks, but there are a lot more incidents of just street racing killing other people. Drunk drivers, etc... but lets be frank, people will always want to go fast against some other car. Lets talk about LOWERING the death toll from street racing... because theoretically there are enough retards out there that we won't be able to stop 100%.

Laws are in place for revoking and suspensions, and jail time and fines. The question is how to stop young people from their own Ego's? Some parts is instantaneous when lining up at a red light, others are the groups of people who drive out to run. In the end its the drivers who are choosing to do so, and the question is why? and how we can get it through to them that there are safe places to do so.

Then again there are a lot of law enforcement in place JUST for DUIs and people still do it. You can't get through ignorance.
I think one solution would be to make the driving test harder. There are far too many people on the road who only know the basics of operating a car, but don't know how to actually drive one. I think the majority of accidents are caused by stupidity. I think each person has a given level of driving "skill." Once you exceed that level of skill, either by talking on the cell phone, being inebriated, or going too fast, bad things happen.

The problem is, we are allowing too many people with too little skill drive. Passing DMV test with an automatic and then driving a manual car is one instance of this. If you can't drive manual well enough to pass the driving test, you shouldn't be allowed to drive one.

I think being overly-cautious on the road is another cause of accidents. Being worried or scared about every little thing focuses your attention on avoiding all hazards, instead of on actually driving. Slow does not equal safe, and fast does not equal unsafe.

Basically, too many people are allowed to drive without the requisite skill. Make the test harder. Who cares if you can circle the block, use your blinkers and parallel park? That has almost no bearing on actually driving. They should take you on the freeway, evaluate the way you merge into traffic, see how you react to almost being hit by another vehicle, see how you do at high speeds, etc.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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"The crash occurred at Highland View Avenue and Colorado Boulevard about 10:30 p.m. A witness said he saw the Mitsubishi hit a Nissan Maxima, which police believe also was involved in racing. The Nissan, with five people inside, then slammed into a tree on Colorado Boulevard's median and caught fire, Lopez said."

and they said theres a third car involved also, so she was racing, no way her car would wrap around the tree if she was goin speed limit
I stand corrected...either way, tragic...and if the Nissan was really part of the race with a 12 year old and a pregnant lady in the car, I hope he burns in hell.
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Pregnant lady was in the Nissan that was struck by the Mitsu, not one of the cars involved in the race....wow, what a tragedy.....
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Its never going to change. That's what people don't realize. As long as there are cars and you can make them faster it won't stop.

All you can do is try to make it easier to do it legally but instead we're making it harder. Less and less tracks mean more and more street racing. Period.

the movies don't start street racing. The movies come from the street racing.
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoung05
I think one solution would be to make the driving test harder. There are far too many people on the road who only know the basics of operating a car, but don't know how to actually drive one. I think the majority of accidents are caused by stupidity. I think each person has a given level of driving "skill." Once you exceed that level of skill, either by talking on the cell phone, being inebriated, or going too fast, bad things happen.

The problem is, we are allowing too many people with too little skill drive. Passing DMV test with an automatic and then driving a manual car is one instance of this. If you can't drive manual well enough to pass the driving test, you shouldn't be allowed to drive one.

I think being overly-cautious on the road is another cause of accidents. Being worried or scared about every little thing focuses your attention on avoiding all hazards, instead of on actually driving. Slow does not equal safe, and fast does not equal unsafe.

Basically, too many people are allowed to drive without the requisite skill. Make the test harder. Who cares if you can circle the block, use your blinkers and parallel park? That has almost no bearing on actually driving. They should take you on the freeway, evaluate the way you merge into traffic, see how you react to almost being hit by another vehicle, see how you do at high speeds, etc.
This doesn't test for street racing, you're testing for licenses in general. This nothing to do with the basics of driving, but with the motive of people racing from light to light. The point of the debate is how to stop street racing, meaning how to stop high speed wrecks.

The problem isn't allowing people with too little skills to drive. If I answered your post correctly, then I would suggest making every driver go through an Advanced Drivers Training course correcting spinouts, stopping at high speeds, n' dodging cones or something.

People can round the block and merge fine into traffic, but that isn't the problem of high speed wrecks. The problem of high speed wrecks is the motive in which the person(s) are even considering racing on a public road.

Reading comprehension is a little off there and/or either that you're linking 2 different things together that I don't see a valid argument to solving street racing.
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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This doesn't test for street racing, you're testing for licenses in general. This nothing to do with the basics of driving, but with the motive of people racing from light to light. The point of the debate is how to stop street racing, meaning how to stop high speed wrecks.

The problem isn't allowing people with too little skills to drive. If I answered your post correctly, then I would suggest making every driver go through an Advanced Drivers Training course correcting spinouts, stopping at high speeds, n' dodging cones or something.

People can round the block and merge fine into traffic, but that isn't the problem of high speed wrecks. The problem of high speed wrecks is the motive in which the person(s) are even considering racing on a public road.

Reading comprehension is a little off there and/or either that you're linking 2 different things together that I don't see a valid argument to solving street racing.
I was suggesting (perhaps implicitly) that the more skill and knowledge a driver has, the more they will realize the consequences of their actions. Maybe they'll know that their car won't allow them to take a particular turn at a given speed, that they'll need X amount of feet to stop in time, that their car won't allow them to make it into that opening in between cars before it closes, etc. I was positing that if stupidity is the cause of most accidents (street racing included), then knowledge and skill would help to reduce the number of accidents.

Sure, everyone has an ego on the road, but knowing that you cannot physically complete a given maneuver (whatever it may be), how many of those people would be willing to pit their ego against physics? Then again, maybe I'm wrong, and some people are in fact that stupid.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by imPreZzdis*sti*
I stand corrected...either way, tragic...and if the Nissan was really part of the race with a 12 year old and a pregnant lady in the car, I hope he burns in hell.
pregnant lady was driving the car, i just feel bad for the 12 yr old, and the unborn child with the stupid *** mom
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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i don't street race, just go fast sometime. i don't see the point racing on the street. i hate ricers wants to be racer.
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by phoryu2nv
y was a pregnant lady racing in the first place?
Maybe she was in labor?




Anyways... Another driver walks away... WTF
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They need some form of driver restrictions
Class restrictions
A. 100hp Freeway Lane 1 15-18 years old
B. 200hp Freeway Lane 2 19 + years old
C. 300hp Freeway Lane 3
D. 400+hp Freeway Lane 4

Then make it a pay to play. You want 200 ? 300? 400+hp car.. You need to have some seat time at a driver school.
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answer = never
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by I<3subie
They need some form of driver restrictions
Class restrictions
A. 100hp Freeway Lane 1 15-18 years old
B. 200hp Freeway Lane 2 19 + years old
C. 300hp Freeway Lane 3
D. 400+hp Freeway Lane 4

Then make it a pay to play. You want 200 ? 300? 400+hp car.. You need to have some seat time at a driver school.
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