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Originally posted by SubySal
...and if you guys are going to be mad at someone make it oil companies and the state gov'ts their the ones denying us the high octane fuels.
Hey, just a thought am I the only one that noticed that octane ratings drop from east to west. I grew up in NY and it was easy to get Sunoco 96, now I live in CO and have to hunt down 93, and I hear in Cali anything higher then 91 can only be found at a racetrack. Ok nuff said this is getting longwinded I need to cut down on the caffeine
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...and if you guys are going to be mad at someone make it oil companies and the state gov'ts their the ones denying us the high octane fuels.
Hey, just a thought am I the only one that noticed that octane ratings drop from east to west. I grew up in NY and it was easy to get Sunoco 96, now I live in CO and have to hunt down 93, and I hear in Cali anything higher then 91 can only be found at a racetrack. Ok nuff said this is getting longwinded I need to cut down on the caffeine
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Anyways, the supposed pinging is happening in places with plenty of 93, so that's not the problem.
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Originally posted by BAN SUVS
Actually, the reason we only get 91 is because there are too many vehicles here that run on premium. When they process crude oil, they can't really predict how much 91, and how much 89, and how much 87 they get. It's just however it comes out. And it isn't enough- in order to make enough "premium" to meet demand, they have to cut it a little with the lower octane stuff. Oil companies aren't to blame at all for the octane of the gas we get. They have to play the cards they are dealt.
Anyways, the supposed pinging is happening in places with plenty of 93, so that's not the problem.
Actually, the reason we only get 91 is because there are too many vehicles here that run on premium. When they process crude oil, they can't really predict how much 91, and how much 89, and how much 87 they get. It's just however it comes out. And it isn't enough- in order to make enough "premium" to meet demand, they have to cut it a little with the lower octane stuff. Oil companies aren't to blame at all for the octane of the gas we get. They have to play the cards they are dealt.
Anyways, the supposed pinging is happening in places with plenty of 93, so that's not the problem.
...and as for the oil companies meeting demand I'm cynical so I have a hard time believing that, not to mention the east coast has far more people then the west coast and they do not have any octane problems. My theory, the reason CA has low octane fuel is to lower emissions. Higher octane gas when put in a car that can't use it (worn out, improper tuning) can pollute heavily. I know I'm repeating myself, but there trying to lean it out that's the whole point of emission reducing additives. Our Suby's with there ECU's can advance timing on high octane fuels to burn it up and get that extra power to the wheels. Here's the kicker we all have to pay extra money for higher octanes to compensate for the emissions reducing additives. I say What a Crock! , but if I owned and oil company I'd be laughing all the way to the bank. Now this is my opinion and what I believe to be true if you guys know otherwise let me know cause it isn't absolute. Hold on Conspiracy Theory is on I gotta go
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No, seriously, there are too many people using high octane here. I'm letting a cat out of the bag by saying that all of our godforsaken SUVS are the only thing between us and 90 octane...
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So then, what are all the premium gas sponges? Higher-end BMWs? The new boom of manufacturer-added forced induction systems are newer than the move to 91, so that's not it. Is it that older cars last longer on the west coast (no road salt, warmer weather, etc) so these older, pinging v8s use premium? Any real knowledge on what's eating up all the premium gas?
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Originally posted by brucelee
Uh, no... it isn't true.
You can't make a car that has 300hp go down to 275... soa would get so sued for that.
Uh, no... it isn't true.
You can't make a car that has 300hp go down to 275... soa would get so sued for that.
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Who cares? Like anyone who cares about WHP and timeslips of the STI leaves their cars stock.
You know what would be awesome? If that reflash knocks hp down to 275 but added an ECUtek or Cobb license to it
You know what would be awesome? If that reflash knocks hp down to 275 but added an ECUtek or Cobb license to it
