Craftsman..

Pretty decent, open end with a ratchet on the other.

 

HA! I was gonna PM you with some info that would benefit you greatly in a couple of weeks, but since you dont own a pistol, I wont bother. you n00b.

 

most DA's will find that if you shot someone in the back, that means they were no longer a threat to you. and then they will go AFTER YOU.

 

Send the DA's out..I personally don't care what goes in the damn bodybags..

 

Forensics could also argue the victim could have been shot in the front, spun around(from multiple sub machine shots) and taken a few in teh back.

 

Why would you shoot an intruder with an AR-15? That's like the worst idea, ever. Well, unless you don't value the life of your neighbors or loved ones. (A round fired out of an AR will travel through multiple houses).

Best to keep a 12guage with some birdshot around. One shot ends it all.

 

False..Although the AR is by definition an assault rifle, .223's are specifically designed to disable a person, not kill them. This is the exact reason the military favors them. If I really wanted to kill the intruder AND my neighbor, an AR-15 with the 7.62 caliber conversion kit would do the job..unfortunately we sold ours with the conversion..Hence the reason I specified shooting the intruder with .223 rounds..

Oh, and p.s. I would only keep a 12 gauge with birdshot handy if you plan on doing a whole house renovation in the near future..firing birdshot rounds (considering the rapidly spreading bb's) in your house will simply do more harm to your house than it would good..now buckshot might be the answer..

 

I thought the military used the M4 and law enforcement used the ar15 ?

 

Um, no. http://www.theboxotruth.com/

Go there and see what a .223 round will do.

And with a 12 gauge... the reason to use birdshot is it wont go through walls... Buckshot WILL. Also, the spread on the birdshot is not that large... adjust your choke if its too much for you. It's not like you're going to be shooing anyone from any further than 7 yards away. (Unless you live in a stadium). The spread at 7 years is like 6" on average.

 

VIBEELEVEN: This is why the military favors the .223 round, NOT the AR-15. True, the military does use the M-4, but they also use the well known fully automatic (and jam-happy) M-16, which is the military issue version of the civilian semi-auto AR-15. Both the AR-15 and the M-16 fire the same caliber.

 

Brucelee: I'm not underestimating the power of a .223. The reason the military uses the .223 is because it's a fairly small bullet with a fairly large casing behind it. Meaning that it will go through several people AND several walls. This is what the bullet is designed to do. What it's not made to do is blast humongus holes through people..thereby verifying that it is made to DISABLE them, NOT KILL them.

On subject of the 12 gauge, I am aware that buckshot can penetrate walls, but hey, the way I look at it, if you can't aim a dang gun, you probably shouldn't own one.

Oh, and I do live in a fairly large home..they've nicknamed it the 'Taj Mahal'..Hence the reason I would most definately not use birdshot.

 

Good clarification
One more question, why would the military want to just "disable"?
I'd think thier reason for using a 223 would be ease of use(less recoil), but I don't really know I'm a newb.

 

Yes, we're agreed. Then why would you use an AR-15 in your house? Why not use a 9mm pistol? Or a 22LR pistol at that. If you wanna kill your neighbors and f up your house, be my guest.

If you can aim a shotgun so well, then use birdshot. It will not mess up your house... BUCKSHOT will mess up your house. It will go through the person and into the walls. Birdshot will not.

 

The key is to wound the target, so that the gov't has to use money, and people to get him out of there, and heal him back up.