Patrick

My friend when i first started reading your story i thought too that you were talking about Miranda. I'm very relieved to find out she's not the girl you were(are) talking about here.

ok i'll do my friendly duty to give you what little advise i can.

Firstly just because you are writing this and looking for help from others tells me a few things. It seems clear that perhaps you still really care for this girl.

Secondly people that are on the outside of any situation can't understand what going on with the person.

my advice is this.
Sure go as far as contacting her folks and see if you can get any more information about her wellbeing. Tell them your concerns about the girl and ask them if they believe something should be done.

But if you are truelly fond of this girl and you think your relationship still has a chance feel free to take it further.

It the relationship is over completely. then it's you that has to walk away. There is a very good chance things aren't as bad as they seem. Many youths go through a few tuff years in their late teen and or ealry twenty to do the whole drug thing. I sure as hell did. Pot, speed and booze were my favorites.
What i'm saying is that alot of us take the leap and drive deep into the world of depravity and many 90% or higher come back out of it just fine. Perhaps it's a journey of discovery for the girl and she'll walk away alittle wiser from this experience.

Who knows. maybe this 30 year old guy she's hanging out with isn't so bad. After all many of the guys on this forum come from good (well to do) families and really don't know what it's like to be down on your luck. Maybe the girl really likes this guy and he's (not) taking advantage of her. Just because he's getting up there in age and still living at home doesn't mean he's a loser. Maybe lifes just hard right now.
Plus while people are doing drugs, they really don't feel like they are doing anything bad. That they have things under control and that their doing well. Many legal drugs are just as bad, but because the law approves of them there ok.

But what do i know. what do any of us know.

Patrick if i were you i'd go my own way. Find a new wonderful girlfriend (that doesn't lie) and go back to being happy.

Just hope things all turn out for the best.

-rich

 

Rich,

Thanks buddy, I appreciate it. I hope all is well with you and yours.

 

you're welcome.
things are great with christina and i. spent the whole weekend relaxing around the house watching movies. but ya life is good.

-rich

 

Thats what I like to hear homie. We're just about to release the '02 Cab and we've got another open house comin up. Ill let you know when it is, but swing by some time, I'll crack a bottle of our new stuff cuz you have to try it, I think you're gonna like it

 

if she wants help, you can offer it, but if she doesnt want the help, dont push it on her or it'll just push her away. Also, don't invest too much of yourself into helping her, if you know what I mean. Don't put all your heart and soul into helping her thinking youre going to turn this girl around.

and as a fellow i-clubber I wish you the best of luck man

 

My oldest brother was a big time speed junkie. But I believe he only snorted it. Which made it easier for him to quit. In order for this girl to even want to quit is for something drastic to happen to her. By the sounds, she might be happy doing what she is doing. For my brother, it took wanting to be with his now wife and her 3 little girls. That alone is what made him stop. No drug programs, hell not even Jail since he was in LA County for 6 weeks. It is ture what everybody has said, if you get involved directly with her she will use you. The only advice I could give would be for you to do some soul searching of your own and decide on how much you care about her. Do you care cause you want to be with her? Or do you care cause you don't want to see her end up in a bad spot and something serious happen? Your answer will usually determine which route you take to help her. Me personally, I would walk away from the whole thing.

 

now that's great new.
i've been crossing my fingers that you guys would be having an open house again. Christina and i had such a great time at the last one. the most fun we had that day was sitting around with your relatives trying to finish all the open bottles of wine after the offical open house had ended, but there was just too much. we still have that 1980 cab we bought when we were there and i've been wanting to drink it. but i need to have a replacement bottle before it's opened.
we'll stop by some time soon. we'd love to see you.

-rich

 

Again I thank everyone who has taken time to post up and for your kind words.


Sounds good buddy, glad you and Christina enjoyed yourselves. You can always check our website to see what upcomming events we have listed. We do our best to keep it up to date, but you two know you dont need an event to stop in. You're always welcome.

**Open House, Nov. 4th and 5th, 11am - 4pm. The official release of our Estate Bottled 2002 Cabernet Sauvignon. Check www.PachecoRanchWinery.com for details and directions.**