Smog check needed - San Jose area
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Yes, that's the key, they are the final word. Don't have time to look it up again, but technically it is legal and per the above, they can technically disqualify it if they want to.
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FMICs are gonna be an instant fail. I asked a few different BAR employees in regards of putting STI TMICs on WRXs and I've gotten mixed answers. No one was willing to say it was legal but some would say its illegal unless there is a full STI swap in which case it would need to be reffed. Upon doing some research I found this
anyway theres a lot more http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...egulations.pdf
Its on the last page. One thing Ive found is when it comes to BAR, the law is not up for your interpretation. What they say goes. You could argue that an intercooler isnt part of the emissions system but then theres this gem.
An intercooler helps by cooling the air and achieve greater volumetric efficiency therefore its related to air injection no?
Just swap your **** to stock and get it smogged. It literally takes a few hours. I do it everytime I have to smog my own car. Its the price we pay for modding our cars.
anyway theres a lot more http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...egulations.pdf
Its on the last page. One thing Ive found is when it comes to BAR, the law is not up for your interpretation. What they say goes. You could argue that an intercooler isnt part of the emissions system but then theres this gem.
An intercooler helps by cooling the air and achieve greater volumetric efficiency therefore its related to air injection no?
Just swap your **** to stock and get it smogged. It literally takes a few hours. I do it everytime I have to smog my own car. Its the price we pay for modding our cars.
There was a post here on i-club sometime ago that had the test requirements etc. from the REF that specifcially stated intercoolers are not part of the testing/consideration process since they do not control or manage emissions in any way.
Edit: Found what I was looking for. This is from the BAR Smog Inspection Manual:
http://s20.photobucket.com/user/cali...l?t=1168482606
Last edited by apetron; Jun 21, 2013 at 01:15 PM. Reason: Found info
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To my knowledge its not related to air injection. Air injection to my understanding is similar to the setup they added to the 07+ WRXs and STIs that introduces fresh air into the motor at startup etc. That whole air system thing.
There was a post here on i-club sometime ago that had the test requirements etc. from the REF that specifcially stated intercoolers are not part of the testing/consideration process since they do not control or manage emissions in any way.
Edit: Found what I was looking for. This is from the BAR Smog Inspection Manual:
BARsmoginspectionManualCatagoryI.jpg Photo by caliSTi | Photobucket
There was a post here on i-club sometime ago that had the test requirements etc. from the REF that specifcially stated intercoolers are not part of the testing/consideration process since they do not control or manage emissions in any way.
Edit: Found what I was looking for. This is from the BAR Smog Inspection Manual:
BARsmoginspectionManualCatagoryI.jpg Photo by caliSTi | Photobucket
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I seriously don't understand this idiotic rule...if it passes sniffer, why the f*ck does anything else matter? idiotic imho... only in CA. where we want to outlaw pressure cookers.
you also have a shop and lift if I'm not mistaken. thanks.
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tried again.
Denied this time because odbii secondary air system 'not ready'.
not sure why.
i haven't reset my ecu anytime recently, I did remove/block off my smog pump tho.
I also read that just because it isn't 'ready', it can still be passed.
any thoughts? or am I outta luck? What to do? i hate CA.
Denied this time because odbii secondary air system 'not ready'.
not sure why.
i haven't reset my ecu anytime recently, I did remove/block off my smog pump tho.
I also read that just because it isn't 'ready', it can still be passed.
any thoughts? or am I outta luck? What to do? i hate CA.
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tried again.
Denied this time because odbii secondary air system 'not ready'.
not sure why.
i haven't reset my ecu anytime recently, I did remove/block off my smog pump tho.
I also read that just because it isn't 'ready', it can still be passed.
any thoughts? or am I outta luck? What to do? i hate CA.
Denied this time because odbii secondary air system 'not ready'.
not sure why.
i haven't reset my ecu anytime recently, I did remove/block off my smog pump tho.
I also read that just because it isn't 'ready', it can still be passed.
any thoughts? or am I outta luck? What to do? i hate CA.
You can force all readiness monitors to on with AP/tactrix.
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If you have 1 monitor thats not ready on a 2001+ car, it WILL pass but the reason shops will turn you away is because even though your car passes, it counts as a red mark on the technicians record. Enough red marks = loss of license. Not that this info will make you feel any better.
You can force all readiness monitors to on with AP/tactrix.
You can force all readiness monitors to on with AP/tactrix.
I have a AP.
If you have 1 monitor thats not ready on a 2001+ car, it WILL pass but the reason shops will turn you away is because even though your car passes, it counts as a red mark on the technicians record. Enough red marks = loss of license. Not that this info will make you feel any better.
You can force all readiness monitors to on with AP/tactrix.
You can force all readiness monitors to on with AP/tactrix.
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so now I need to swap back to my stock DP, but new issue is it won't fit to my cobb cbe (I changed it to flat from donut)...
ideas? you guys think I can pass sniffer just running my perrin dp? it's got 1 cat. I'd love to just switch to my stock dp, only if it were that easy.
ideas? you guys think I can pass sniffer just running my perrin dp? it's got 1 cat. I'd love to just switch to my stock dp, only if it were that easy.