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Old 06-18-2013, 12:13 PM
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Smog check needed - San Jose area

my apologies in advance, I don't have all that much time to search before posting this...

I was curious if anyone knows a good smog shop in the south bay area possibly?

Visual is most likely a no go for me, but I'm pretty sure I'll pass sniffer if my cat is hoootttttt....

not a star test required, any ideas? PM me or post please! I need it done by July 7th. I also have my stock dp and cbe if required, but don't really have the time or $ to switch them out, then back on...

I appreciate your thoughts/suggestions/advice as always.

I also have a special treat for someone that can help me!
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anyone help a brotha out?
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You really only need to do the DP to pass visual. Both of my cars with CBE passed fine. It's a hassle and is why I haven't done the DP on my WRX.
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You really only need to do the DP to pass visual. Both of my cars with CBE passed fine. It's a hassle and is why I haven't done the DP on my WRX.
Same here haha 5+ years and still stock dp, although I've modified almost everything else besides my engine

I passed with a straight pipe catback so just swap your dp for easiest option..I'm sure someone can help you install it here
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Go here: Brightside Smog - San Jose, CA .

My Mazdaspeed Protege passed with a bunch of mods, even after a few other shops I went to wouldn't even hook my car up after popping the hood.
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lol all show no go. get your hands dirty and get rid of that catted DP. its easy! DIY and its free aha. it wont take very long either. even if youve never done it. youtewb ftw
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thanks everyone, appreciate the advice Sasco. I owe you a 6'er o' beer if this works.

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Same here haha 5+ years and still stock dp, although I've modified almost everything else besides my engine

I passed with a straight pipe catback so just swap your dp for easiest option..I'm sure someone can help you install it here
do I need to change a map? I pretty much have everything done on my motor except for internals...
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get rid of that catted DP.
I'll have flange (donut-flat) issues. It's a Perrin DP (catted) to a Cobb 3" tbe, which I've had to mod to be flat.
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Go here: Brightside Smog - San Jose, CA .

My Mazdaspeed Protege passed with a bunch of mods, even after a few other shops I went to wouldn't even hook my car up after popping the hood.
DENIED.

Said fail due to non-stock IC. (no carb# on it) doesn't matter if it passes sniffer.

HA. FML.
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Originally Posted by NorCalPaintball
DENIED.

Said fail due to non-stock IC. (no carb# on it) doesn't matter if it passes sniffer.

HA. FML.
What kind of intercooler you running, a front mount?
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DENIED.

Said fail due to non-stock IC. (no carb# on it) doesn't matter if it passes sniffer.

HA. FML.
The hell? I'm pretty sure aftermarket intercoolers aren't illegal. I had a big intercooler and pipes when I got my car smogged there...
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The hell? I'm pretty sure aftermarket intercoolers aren't illegal. I had a big intercooler and pipes when I got my car smogged there...
Yup. If it had an IC stock, the FMIC or aftermarket TMIC are 100% legal.
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Yup. If it had an IC stock, the FMIC or aftermarket TMIC are 100% legal.
FMICs are gonna be an instant fail. I asked a few different BAR employees in regards of putting STI TMICs on WRXs and I've gotten mixed answers. No one was willing to say it was legal but some would say its illegal unless there is a full STI swap in which case it would need to be reffed. Upon doing some research I found this

§ 3340.41.3
CALIFORNIA CODE OF REGULATIONS
276
AUTHORITY:
Note:
Authority cited: Sections 44002, 44016 and 44030, Health and
Safety Code; and Section 9882, Business and Profession Code.
Reference: Sections 44010.5, 44012, 44014, 44014.2, 44014.7, 44016,
44030, 44036(a) and (b), 44050 and 44051.5, Health and Safety Code.
HISTORY
1. Amendment of section heading filed 8-24-88; operative 9-23-88
(Register 88, No. 37).
2. Amendment filed 4-16-90; operative 4-16-90 (Register 90, No. 19).
3. Editorial correction of printing error correcting section heading
(Register 91, No. 6).
4. Amendment of subsection (c) filed 8-18-92; operative 9-17-92
(Register 92, No. 37).
5. New section heading, new subsection (d) and amendment of Note
filed 7-26-96 as an emergency; operative 7-26-96 (Register 96, No. 30). A
Certificate of Compliance must be transmitted to OAL by 11-25-96 or
emergency language will be repealed by operation of law on the
following day.
6. Editorial correction of subsection (d) (Register 97, No. 2).
7. Certificate of Compliance as to 7-26-96 order transmitted to OAL 11-
19-96 and filed 1-6-97 (Register 97, No. 2).
8. New subsection (e) and new Forms T1-T6 filed 2-1-2001; operative 2-
1-2001 pursuant to Government Code section 11343.4(c) (Register 2001,
No. 5).
9. Amendment of subsections (a)-(c) filed 6-9-2003; operative 7-9-2003
(Register 2003, No. 24).
10. Amendment of section heading, section and Note filed 5-30-2006;
operative 6-29-2006 (Register 2006, No. 22).
§ 3340.41.3. Invoice Requirements.
The invoice for service, adjustments or repairs per-
formed as part of the smog check program shall describe
all service work done and parts supplied to reduce emis-
sions, in the manner prescribed by section 9884.8 of the
Business and Professions Code.
A general description, such as “low-emissions tune
insufficient to satisfy the requirements of section 9884.8
of the Business and Professions Code.
AUTHORITY:
Section 9882, Business and Professions Code. Reference: Section
44015(b), Health and Safety Code; and Sections 9884.7(1)(a) and 9884.8,
Business and Professions Code.
HISTORY
1. New section filed 8-24-88; operative 9-23-88 (Register 88, No. 37).
2. Amendment filed 4-16-90; operative 4-16-90 (Register 90, No. 19).
§ 3340.41.5. Tampering with Emissions Control
Systems.
A tampered emissions control system is an emissions
control system which is missing, modified or discon-
nected. An emissions control system which has a miss-
ing, modified, or disconnected emissions related
component is also deemed a tampered emissions control
system. For purposes of the visual emission control sys-
tem inspection pursuant to Health and Safety Code Sec-
tion 44012(a), the terms missing, modified and
disconnected are defined as follows:
(a) Missing. A missing emissions control system or
component is one which has been removed from the vehi-
cle or engine.
(b) Modified. An emissions control system is deemed
to have been modified if:
(1) the system has been disabled, even though it is
present and properly connected to the engine and/or ve-
hicle;
(2) an emissions related component of the system has
been replaced by a component not marketed by its manu-
facturer for street use on the vehicle; or
anyway theres a lot more http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...egulations.pdf

Its on the last page. One thing Ive found is when it comes to BAR, the law is not up for your interpretation. What they say goes. You could argue that an intercooler isnt part of the emissions system but then theres this gem.

277
P
ROFESSIONAL AND VOCATIONAL REGULATIONS
§ 3340.42

(1) A visual inspection of the vehicle’s emissions con-
trol systems. During the visual inspection, the technician
shall verify that the following emission control devices,
as applicable, are properly installed on the vehicle

(A) air injection systems,
(B) computer(s) and related sensors and switches,
(C) crankcase emissions controls, including positive
crankcase ventilation,
(D) exhaust gas after treatment systems, including
catalytic converters,
(E) exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) systems,
(F) fuel evaporative emission controls,
(G) fuel metering systems, including carburetors and
fuel injection,
(H) ignition spark controls, and
(I) any emissions control systems that are not oth-
erwise prompted by the Emissions Inspection System,
but listed as a requirement by the vehicle manufacturer.
An intercooler helps by cooling the air and achieve greater volumetric efficiency therefore its related to air injection no?

Just swap your **** to stock and get it smogged. It literally takes a few hours. I do it everytime I have to smog my own car. Its the price we pay for modding our cars.

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