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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ldivinag
1. chase has been going for over 60 miles.

2. once the freeway was clear, PIT was used.

3. driver been going high rate of speed.

those are the driver's actions.

why was she running?

why didnt she stop?

maybe everyone's been brainwashed in kalifornia to believe criminals have more rights that the law abiding citizens.

imagine if she hit a family and killed them first. imagine all the fingerpointing why the cops didnt do anything to stop her...


Yeah, you too. What if the girl was ridiculously hot?



lol man you guys, although the troopers DID do what was necessary to ensure the safety of the public, just friggin' admit that they could have done it better.

I mean, it's done, it's over, they are dead, and the cops did the right thing. But all we're saying is that they could have done it better.
Old Aug 26, 2004 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mexicanpizza
Those weren't the circumstances. And I know the cops wouldn't PIT the car then.

And if you're going to call me an idiot, it's "you're".

Let's see how you'd feel if the cops backed off, and then the stupid ho crashed into your family and killed them all. Then you'd sue the cops.

I agree that the passenger could have been "innocent" but life isn't fair.


Mexicanpizza, did I just read you use the arguement of "Those weren't the circumstances"?

That's pretty... beneath you for your level of intelligence. I mean you do realize that the those COULD have been the circumstances at least.
Old Aug 26, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ldivinag
1. chase has been going for over 60 miles.

2. once the freeway was clear, PIT was used.

3. driver been going high rate of speed.

those are the driver's actions.

why was she running?

why didnt she stop?

maybe everyone's been brainwashed in kalifornia to believe criminals have more rights that the law abiding citizens.

imagine if she hit a family and killed them first. imagine all the fingerpointing why the cops didnt do anything to stop her...
Well, see...I'm sure the ACLU has already contacted the families to let them know they'll be pursuing the case because the police SOMEHOW violated her civil rights by scaring her, and CAUSING her to drive the way she did!!

Oh, wait. It was her abusive parents who taught her to fear the police...or maybe society's fault for somehow traumatizing this poor girl...somehow, it's never the criminals' fault.
Old Aug 26, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by zumnwrx
w3rd i hate people that think there so damn perfect especially you mr pizza you are always the first to criticize and bash others when you yourself ain’t perfect

edgar,

You don't need to be perfect to bash, and though his slip of arguementative logic I pointed at in my previous post, he has historically shown a pretty good judgement and thinking about things from multiple points of view and angles of reasoning.

Hell I ain't perfect, that doesn't mean I can't flame the crap out of everyone if I so desire...just ask Zoeb!
Old Aug 26, 2004 | 11:15 PM
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if the girl & passenger has been allowed to escape/leave, what makes you think they WOULD NOT do it AGAIN in a heart beat if they were just being pulled over for a b0rked tail light or some other worthless offense?

(hypothetical situation knowing dumbass kids that would run from cops) The next day at school, that ish would be ALL OVER the campus at how BAD *** & cool they were & how cops are total pussies & you can just run from them & then you're good to go... But I could be wrong & they would NEVER ever EVER break a law ever again cuz they got soooo close to being caught... yeah... that's it!!! (sarcasm)

It's unfortunate that they had to die but I don't believe in allowing someone to get away with doing stuff like that & pass just cuz it's dangerous for the cops to pursue... That's their job right??? Endangering themselves for the good of the community & now 2 criminals will never threaten that area again ... Moreover the fact that a girl was driving an SUV to begin with means there's already more danger than I care to consider.
Old Aug 26, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ldivinag
you're kidding... right?

just like those bank robbers in north hollywood who were shooting up the entire place. i suppose you would just let them continue shooting until they ran out of bullets?!?
You're kidding, right? You can't even compare the two incidents.

north hollywood: those bank robbers were shooting at people with the intent to kill.

incident in this video: they were just driving fast. yes there are risks associated with traveling at high speed, especially in an SUV such as the '95 Pathfinder, however there was no intent to kill.

Next time you want to argue a point, try picking two things that can actually be compared.
Old Aug 26, 2004 | 11:57 PM
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I've seen several COPS and 'most extreme police chases' shows where the driver of the car they are chasing is showing a gun, and in some cases even at the police or shooting at them. Never did they use this kind of force.
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sonicsuby
You're kidding, right? You can't even compare the two incidents.

north hollywood: those bank robbers were shooting at people with the intent to kill.

incident in this video: they were just driving fast. yes there are risks associated with traveling at high speed, especially in an SUV such as the '95 Pathfinder, however there was no intent to kill.

Next time you want to argue a point, try picking two things that can actually be compared.

no.. they WERE NOT just driving fast...

they were evading the police!

i drive fast on the freeway... (okay... 70-75...) but when the cops hits the lights, i stop.

the chase has gone over 60 miles!!!!!!!! so assuming 90 miles an hour, that's about 30 minutes.

you think she was just out for a sunday drive?

when she refused to stop, her charges went from speeding to failure to stop. and when she starts to weave in and out, that's reckless driving. and you can then further tag on a few more charges.

what were you waiting for? til it becomes homicide?

oh right... til she runs out of gas...
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mexicanpizza
That's what is wrong with the world today. People take NO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their actions.

Criminals that put that many other motorists in danger deserve what they get. That cop should get a commendation.

Same with stupid people who come after cops with broken bottles or tiny knives. Blast 'em all.

+2 Darwin
+2 Cops
I agree with you except I think it should be written as
+1 Darwin
+1 Cops
-1 Innocent
Even though Life isn't fair, it isn't right for the kid to have to pay for someone else's mistake. But I do agree, that 100 mph slide killed the 2 people. I'm sure an SUV colliding with another driver will surely kill someone. People can always say she didn't hit anyone, but likewise what IF she wasn't stopped? Who's to say she wouldn't have hit anyone.
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:00 AM
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u know i think mainly the police should be more responsible instead of making the situation seem like nothing and just another days work. i am sure the state trooper toally regrets ever using that manuever. i am sure road block would have been suffiecient. i am sure she wouldnt have been that dumb to plow into a bunch of cars. but hey what do i know
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Impreza01
People can always say she didn't hit anyone, but likewise what IF she wasn't stopped? Who's to say she wouldn't have hit anyone.
Originally Posted by sjt
if the girl & passenger has been allowed to escape/leave, what makes you think they WOULD NOT do it AGAIN in a heart beat if they were just being pulled over for a b0rked tail light or some other worthless offense?

(hypothetical situation knowing dumbass kids that would run from cops) The next day at school, that ish would be ALL OVER the campus at how BAD *** & cool they were & how cops are total pussies & you can just run from them & then you're good to go... But I could be wrong & they would NEVER ever EVER break a law ever again cuz they got soooo close to being caught... yeah... that's it!!! (sarcasm)
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ldivinag
no.. they WERE NOT just driving fast...

they were evading the police!

i drive fast on the freeway... (okay... 70-75...) but when the cops hits the lights, i stop.

the chase has gone over 60 miles!!!!!!!! so assuming 90 miles an hour, that's about 30 minutes.

you think she was just out for a sunday drive?

when she refused to stop, her charges went from speeding to failure to stop. and when she starts to weave in and out, that's reckless driving. and you can then further tag on a few more charges.

what were you waiting for? til it becomes homicide?

oh right... til she runs out of gas...
So you think that just because people evade the police that it's ok if they die?

I'm not saying what she did was right, I'm saying what the cop did was wrong and unnecessary. They could have worked to clear the freeway ahead to keep people safe and tried other options to stop the car.
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kravdra
If they'd known they were criminals or something I'd be all for the cops, but they had no idea.
They were doing over a 100, in an SUV no less. They were running from the cops. Both of these facts makes them criminals. I have absolutely NO sympathy for the driver, the only circumstance in which I would run from the cops is if I was convinced that they would kill me immediately upon capture. Running from the cops = death wish. I do have a bit of sympathy for the passenger, a victim of the driver's bad decision.


Originally Posted by verc
the troopers DID do what was necessary to ensure the safety of the public
My primary beef with the pit maneuver is that it INCREASED the danger to the law abiding public on that road. It was NOT a safe maneuver. If the speeders tires had gripped just a little more, or the pit was executed at a slightly different angle, the SUV could have rolled on the interstate, potentially causing a pile up - maybe even causing the cops to crash. Like I said earlier, how long do you think it takes a big rig to shut it down on the freeway? They likely would have jack knifed causing a pile up, injuring or killing the people that cops are supposed to protect.
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sonicsuby
So you think that just because people evade the police that it's ok if they die?
It's not OK if they die. It is however, their choice to run. With choices, come consequences. That is not a politically correct way to look at it, but it is my opinion.
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicsuby
So you think that just because people evade the police that it's ok if they die?
hell no. but once you cross the line, then everything MUST BE done to stop the criminal.

look. i'm not advocating for a police state. on the contrary. if you go back on my other posts concerning police you'll see where my beliefs fall into.

I'm not saying what she did was right, I'm saying what the cop did was wrong and unnecessary. They could have worked to clear the freeway ahead to keep people safe and tried other options to stop the car.
if you watch the clip again, the cops waited until the freeway was clear BEFORE doing PITting the car...



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