Not a bad idea. They can get what they need farther down in the draft and hopefully fill 2 holes instead of 1.

 

DHB signs with the Colts

 

Watch that dudes career go nuts all of a sudden.

I think in their system he'll be able to do what he's meant to do... be a slot.

He's not a number 1 dude. He's not that kind of player and that's what the Raiders were trying to force him in to. They need to use him in the slot and maybe give him some plays like a mini-Harvin.

DHB in the slot
Reggie as the number 1
T.Y. Hilton and Avery as the number 2

Brazil and Palmer... Not sure if they'll both stick now but maybe.

Ballard showed some good game last year.

The colts are dope man. They're in my top 10 on my power list right now.

I've got them pushing as high as the 7 slot depending on their draft. I see them going defense but I wouldn't be surprised to see them take Bell in the third round.

 

Carson Palmer instantly improves Arizona Cardinals - NFL.com

Still a win situation there.

 

Good riddance to his INTs and his horrible contract. The last remnants of Hue and his ****ty attempt as a GM are gone.

Flynn will be a serviceable stop gap qb until Oakland draft/sign a franchise qb. Next offseason they will finally be able to make some real progress instead of sweeping up Al's and Hue's **** ups.

 

You honestly think that Flynn is an improvement over Palmer. LOL! Can he function as a QB in the NFL... sure. But he's not even the guaranteed starter. We might have Pryor running the show come the start of the season.

Palmer is a quality starter in the NFL. The first season he was with the Raiders he was shaking rust off and learning the system. Last year given what he had to work with he had a really good season. He ran a crap system. Had an injured RB for half the season. Didn't play a single game the entire season with a healthy WR set and still through for over 4000 yards and 20 TD's. I'm getting sick and tired of people bagging on Palmer.

Loosing him is a DOWNGRADE at the position over anyone we have on staff or anyone available on the market right now.

BUT>... it's the right choice. He is a big salary obligation and the Raiders quite frankly overpaid for him. They could have got him for much less and should have. And he'll go to Arizona and be an instant improvement for them and have a chance to win.

My bet is that he finishes with around 4300 yards, 25TD's and 12INTs next year with a lot more wins than the Raiders will have. He'll have people to throw to and he'll be in a system that works for passing. It was a very good move for both teams.


But bagging on Palmer is pointless. He was not the problem.

4018 yards
268 yards per game.
22 TDs
14 INTs
5 Fumbles
85.3 Rating.

Not amazing. But not terrible. And when you consider who he was throwing to and the system he was in... not to mention that the raiders played from behind most of the season (means defense can sit and take risks on ball)... it's a good year.

How many INT's per attempt??? 1 per 25.7. That's like 2.5percent
Had the same yards per game as Rodgers.
Through less picks per pass attempt than Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, and Eli Manning just to name a few.



He had a good year. Period.

 

I think we should have paid Palmer.

but Flynn is at worst an average QB, and at best a new Gannon.

Nobody knows. We just have to sit and see.

 

Agreed. Strangely enough I'm starting to get happy about the decisions being made. They're cutting a LOT of cap space and they're starting to get some draft picks coming in. If they can get things rolling in the right direction this year they'll still have a pretty good set of picks next season as I don't see them winning more than 4-5 games. Make more good choices this year and refine the system...

Could have a half way decent team next season or the season after. Just in time for Peyton Manning to retire.

 

He didn't have a good year. He had a lot of garbage yards against a lot of prevent defense because Oakland was always trailing. Don't get me wrong, the whole offense was **** poor, but he was no better than anyone else on the roster. Especially considering what he cost the franchise to be there.

Those other QBs can get away with those INT's because they throw touchdown passes. Palmer, and the rest of his offense, was useless in the red zone, that makes Palmer's INTs much more costly.


I didn't like the trade that brought him on the team just as much as I didn't like the fact that he was not an impact on the offense. I liked the way Palmer handled himself off the field, seems like a good guy, he just did not elevate the team the way that Hue tried to convince everyone that he would.

As I said when he was brought in during the 2011 season, if Palmer does not get this team to the playoffs, this trade was a complete failure. The team was already hurting for cap space and then Hue was throwing away high draft picks and more money at the problem. Just for a last ditch effort to make it to the playoffs.

No hard feelings Carson, but glad to see you off the payroll.

 

I agree with the above. Palmer was throwing against teams leading by some 20+pts each. Naturally defenses get laxed and just play prevent. Reminds me of the 49ers keeping things in front of them when they're in the lead. Except most teams are ahead by 20 points and Oakland is trying to comeback from halftime.

Those yards are a bit skewed IMO.

 

His "Garbage Time" yards aren't even 25% of his total yards...

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2...n-garbage-time


So his yards or play coming from "garbage time" is a complete fallacy.

 

If they were not garbage yards, where are all of the touchdowns?

I watched the games and don't need to look at his stats to know he, along with the rest of the offense, was terrible.

Look at that article again. Look at what the scores were. Passing yards mean nothing if they don't result in points.

 

And it takes more than just him to make that happen.

Issue with last year was Knapp. Since defenses knew we couldn't run, they didn't stuff the box at all. so many defenders meant Carson's options were limited.

 

We both agree that there were many issues creating a crappy offense. My concern is that, after all is said and done, Carson was holding up tons of cap space, a 1st & 2nd rd draft pick, and the Raiders have nothing to show for it.

Might as well replace home with a cheaper option and open up some money next season to address the other issues on offense.

It's not a pretty scenario, and Carson isn't the only one to blame, but he was never going to be the Raiders QB moving forward. That was Hue's desperate grab at solidifying a spot as HC/GM. It didn't work out.

 

I feel you...

Needless to say, I didn't reup my tickets this year. With my taxes going up, and things the car needs and, yeah, some of the decisions have pissed me off this year.