New entry level coilover
#106
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But yes, These are cheap and made for one reason, Profit And most the public is out for cost not shock dyno charts. As crappy as that is. Its funny that the reviews for cheap coilovers are not as bad as they should be. I think people are pre warned that the ride is going to suck and they accept that for their give style or look they want. Not knowing it could be a lot better if they spent a little bit more money.
#107
I think it comes down to experience. The people buy the entry level coilovers don't have any experience to know the difference. So even though the coils they got are only slightly better than stock, they think they are great. Maybe the mass majority also has low standards. Although my BCs are better than what I had before, they don't seem to meet my standards and I feel that there is improvement to be made.
#108
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reading nasioc's comments and eng-gin-neering rants makes my brain bleed.
Entry coilover is exactly what these are from what I can tell. Don't care where it came from as long as the end user is happy imo
Entry coilover is exactly what these are from what I can tell. Don't care where it came from as long as the end user is happy imo
#109
teins should have their part number printed on them so just check those on google, its most likely either S-techs (low stiff) or H-techs (not so low not as stiff). Theres better springs out there then Teins but if your happy with the drop and the ride then Konis can only make them better if your riding around on blown stock struts. The really only benefit KYBs have over Konis is price, so if you were already okay with what Konis cost then get them for sure. You'll never hear anyone say they regretted getting Konis instead of KYBs
#112
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My bc br coilovers are starting to exhibit excessive jumpiness-bouncing on bumps, but cornering is the same at roughly 55k miles....
I'm looking for new suspension as well...I loved the bc for rigid body, zero roll stability but I want a little more suspension travel because I get inner rear wheel skip on tight turns
Not sure what I want to get next...
I'm looking for new suspension as well...I loved the bc for rigid body, zero roll stability but I want a little more suspension travel because I get inner rear wheel skip on tight turns
Not sure what I want to get next...
#114
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Car Info: for the Car Acrobatic Team
So, what's the consensus about these?
Ground Control - Complete Coilover Conversion kit, '02-'07 Subaru WRX & STi (without rear camber plates)
Ground Control - Complete Coilover Conversion kit, '02-'07 Subaru WRX & STi (without rear camber plates)
#118
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Car Info: '99 RBP GM6
While everything you say is very true. My set up works and rides great on the track.(teins /revavled/resprung) And ok on the street but I accept that trade off. And my lack of real bushings also take ride quality away. (built motons going in this summer)
As far as coilovers, street vs track there is totally different vehical dynamics at work. Track you have much more speed and downforce among other things working on the car. Street, Rolling stop light to stop light not so much. Hell even the road surface in California would scare me away from coilovers.
But yes, These are cheap and made for one reason, Profit And most the public is out for cost not shock dyno charts. As crappy as that is. Its funny that the reviews for cheap coilovers are not as bad as they should be. I think people are pre warned that the ride is going to suck and they accept that for their give style or look they want. Not knowing it could be a lot better if they spent a little bit more money.
As far as coilovers, street vs track there is totally different vehical dynamics at work. Track you have much more speed and downforce among other things working on the car. Street, Rolling stop light to stop light not so much. Hell even the road surface in California would scare me away from coilovers.
But yes, These are cheap and made for one reason, Profit And most the public is out for cost not shock dyno charts. As crappy as that is. Its funny that the reviews for cheap coilovers are not as bad as they should be. I think people are pre warned that the ride is going to suck and they accept that for their give style or look they want. Not knowing it could be a lot better if they spent a little bit more money.
#119
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So, what's the consensus about these?
Ground Control - Complete Coilover Conversion kit, '02-'07 Subaru WRX & STi (without rear camber plates)
Ground Control - Complete Coilover Conversion kit, '02-'07 Subaru WRX & STi (without rear camber plates)
#120
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Well Fortune Auto provides dyno plots of their coilovers
Fortune Auto coilovers? - NASIOC
I have no clue how to read them though
Fortune Auto coilovers? - NASIOC
I have no clue how to read them though