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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:22 AM
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I disagree, it is one thing to recommend something but I have never been told that something i had previously bought or is on my car right now is complete crap. If that said part is breaking or wearing down, then yea sure voice your opinion. And there is a big difference between you a customer voicing your opinion and a shop doing so.
Gary told me that the milltek is the only exhaust that sounds good on a subaru......lol.

Now that is personal preference honestly....
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:29 AM
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Why spend all that money on adjustability that you're not taking advantage of? It's the purist in me speaking. It also feeds into belief that coilovers don't belong on a DD or car that doesn't see competitive level race use. Nobody can outdrive a good set of struts and springs on public roads and most people who have coilovers can't out drive springs in some legitimate race environments. A friend of mine put AST 5200s on a car that would never see a track in its lifetime. The amount of money spent for capabilities he wasn't using boggled my mind.
You know they sell coilovers for daily driving.....and they arent expensive.

**** ive been in cars with isc and bc coils that rode better than my dspecs....

I agree your buddy spent too much money on track coils for a DD.

Hvt is ast hollands north america rep and they just came out with a coil valved for the GD. No custom options. They are soley a DD height adjustment coilover.

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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoobywax
You know they sell coilovers for daily driving.....and they arent expensive.

**** ive been in cars with isc and bc coils that rode better than my dspecs....

I agree your buddy spent too much money on track coils for a DD.

Hvt is ast hollands north america rep and they just came out with a coil valved for the GD. No custom options. They are soley a DD height adjustment coilover.

Made is USA! For under 1000 bucks!
But 4EAT

Originally Posted by Scoobywax
Gary told me that the milltek is the only exhaust that sounds good on a subaru......lol.

Now that is personal preference honestly....
I like it on the FXT because it is quiet. It is NOT the best sounding exhaust though IMO. The one for the BRZ does sound pretty good.

FYI: pretty much EVERYTHING about cars is personal preference.

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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 04GG

FYI: pretty much EVERYTHING about cars is personal preference.
OH MAN. Thank you. If more people understood this, things would be so much more fun.
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Brfatal
Why spend all that money on adjustability that you're not taking advantage of? It's the purist in me speaking. It also feeds into belief that coilovers don't belong on a DD or car that doesn't see competitive level race use. Nobody can outdrive a good set of struts and springs on public roads and most people who have coilovers can't out drive springs in some legitimate race environments. A friend of mine put AST 5200s on a car that would never see a track in its lifetime. The amount of money spent for capabilities he wasn't using boggled my mind.
I don't disagree. Look at the last 10 years of posts here and on nasioc in concerns to this. For street cars I pretty much always recommend something along the lines of koni/swift. I personally run strut/springs. I think a good static set up is FAR better for street use and track use for that matter than a cheap set of coils.

But there are plenty of advantages of a properly set up set of coil overs on a street driven car that sees track use.

For one thing you can custom valve and spring them. You can dial in your right height exactly where you want it. You're not limited to choosing to go with one type of spring that lowers you so much and another type that lowers you a different amount.

And they're rebuildable. i.e. long term use.

And if you don't like the height you can change it.

Etc etc etc.


Right height adjustability is the easiest thing for someone to look at but in my book is not the main advantage over a static set up. It's the overall adjustability that is.
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoobywax
Gary told me that the milltek is the only exhaust that sounds good on a subaru......lol.

Now that is personal preference honestly....
For sure. I freakin love the sound of my perrin.
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoobywax
Im going with a height only adjusting coilover. Serviced is a given....but honestly 50% of the users of coilovers are not tweaking with them once installed correctly.

The coilover is being chosen to give me a asthetically pleasing drop as my tokico struts handle beautifully.

I would love a set and forget type application.

Your statements only reflect real world track use...which isnt everyone.
I bet it's more like 80% don't mess with them once they get them dialed in.
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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More like a lot aren't the 80% who dial them in though ray.
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 10:51 AM
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More like a lot aren't the 80% who dial them in though ray.
Bingo. The people who buy quality coils are the ones who are going to take the time to get them setup properly and likely know how they want the car to behave. The majority of people I see buy coils just buy them because moar low, not handling.
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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Yea I could have gotten the Tein Wagon coilovers back in the day, but they were only good for height adjustment. That would have been a waste of money to me.
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 12:31 PM
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For sure. I freakin love [insert anything] perrin.
This has to be an April fools joke.
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SV415
This has to be an April fools joke.
Nahhh it has a wicked sound, even though it fits like a bull in a china shop.
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Nahhh it has a wicked sound, even though it fits like a bull in a china shop.
It's not that - I know how much he likes the company (or at least their end links).
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SV415
It's not that - I know how much he likes the company (or at least their end links).
I'm pickin' up what you are putting down. The sound is good enough to rock a part you hate from a company you hate.
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This has to be an April fools joke.
It's more than just their end links....

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