Man dies after BART officer shooting (was: I really hope this ain't true...)

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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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this guy spends ANY time in prison and its basically a death sentence, he'll get shanked as soon as he arrives, and Im sure he knows that.
they are probably going to bring him over to my backyard while he awaits trial Santa Rita

there is a special sections for high profile people. they don't get to hang out with groups of inmates.
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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they are probably going to bring him over to my backyard while he awaits trial Santa Rita

there is a special sections for high profile people. they don't get to hang out with groups of inmates.
no I would worry about him so much in jail, but if he gets sentenced with manslaughter hes off to prison, and that will be that.
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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OAKLAND, Calif. - A former transit police officer has been charged with murder for the fatal shooting of an unarmed and allegedly restrained black man in a racially charged case that has outraged residents and community leaders and sparked violent street protests.

Newly released court documents allege that Johannes Mehserle, who was charged Tuesday, shot 22-year-old Oscar Grant while Grant had his hands behind his back and another officer was kneeling on his neck.

Meanwhile, about 50 people were evacuated from their homes after Mehserle's parents found two suspicious packages on their porch Wednesday evening, the Napa County Sheriff's department said.

Bomb squad officers evacuated the neighborhood while trying to determine the contents of the packages. When authorities could not determine what was inside, they destroyed them. The residents were then allowed to return home.

Mehserle and his family have received death threats since the New Year's Day shooting.

Alameda County District Attorney Tom Orloff made the rare decision to file a murder charge against a police officer for an on-duty incident.

"At this point, what I feel the evidence indicates, is an unlawful killing done by an intentional act and from the evidence we have there's nothing that would mitigate that to something lower than a murder," Orloff said at a news conference. He said he would not speculate on whether the charge would end up being first-degree murder or second-degree murder.

Caught on camera
Witnesses said Grant was lying face down on a train platform at a station in Oakland when the 27-year-old white officer shot him in the back. Grant and others had been pulled off a train after reports of fighting, as New Year's Eve revelers were shuttling home after midnight.

Allegations that Grant's hands were behind his back and another officer was kneeling on him were contained in an Oakland police officer's request to issue an arrest warrant. It said it appeared from cell phone video that "Mehserle shot and killed Oscar Grant while Grant was restrained and unarmed."

The shooting, captured on cell phone cameras and widely viewed on the Internet, has inflamed long-running tensions in Oakland between law enforcement authorities and many African-American residents.

Violent protests
Protesters have taken to the streets calling for the prosecution of Mehserle, with one rally last week spiraling into violence that resulted in more than 100 arrests and damage to dozens of businesses.

More than a thousand demonstrators again gathered Wednesday, outside Oakland City Hall. They listened to preachers, community activists and others who urged a peaceful demonstration and demanded justice for Grant. Some protesters wore "Don't Shoot" signs on their backs and held signs that said, "Silence the Violence."

The protest was mostly peaceful before a small group went on a window-breaking rampage through downtown, smashing windows at several businesses and about 30 cars. Eighteen people were arrested, mostly for vandalism, Oakland police spokesman Jeff Thomason said.

Surrendered in Lake Tahoe
Mehserle surrendered without incident Tuesday at a family friend's house in an upscale neighborhood on the east shore of Lake Tahoe in Douglas County, Nevada, law enforcement officials said.

During a brief court appearance in Minden, Nevada, on Wednesday, he waived extradition and was returned to California to face charges. His lawyer, Christopher Miller, said his client had been in Nevada for a few days to get away from the pressures of what was happening in the Bay Area, and there was no effort to avoid arrest.

Mehserle could be arraigned as early as Thursday, Miller said.

Michael Rains, a former police officer who has represented cops as a lawyer since 1979, called such a charge "extremely rare."
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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wow, that sucks that it's destroyed his families life. i can't believe people are threatening his family
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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maybe people should take to the streets and rally for justice

oh wait...
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rescuer
i can't believe people are threatening his family
i can its ****ing oakland
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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its sad this happened while on the job, and that he made a bad decision and now is paying for it. sucks all around for both sides!
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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In all honesty - he should have done the right thing.

Which was - after killing him, turn in his gun and badge, tell his CO that he wants his Union representative and his lawyer and telling them it was an accident to begin with.

Fleeing to Nevada and not admitting it was an accident is the 1-2 step to looking as guilty as you could possibly try to.
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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"The former transit police officer accused of shooting an unarmed man at a California train station went to Nevada with his family "to clear his mind" after receiving death threats, his lawyer said Wednesday."

Old Jan 15, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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i can its ****ing oakland
lol funny, but i'm pretty sure these circumstances occur in other cities other than oakland, california
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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lol funny, but i'm pretty sure these circumstances occur in other cities other than oakland, california
Ever hear of the NYPD?
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by R-Dub
Ever hear of the NYPD?
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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I had a friend growing up in SOHO and his upstairs neighbor was shot 16 times after opening the door with a TV remote in his hand.
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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I think there is a video from a BART security camera that shows the angle indicating that he wasn't restrained, and paints a better picture of what actually happened. Don't know for sure though, that video hasn't been released I don't think.
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JArnaud
I think there is a video from a BART security camera that shows the angle indicating that he wasn't restrained, and paints a better picture of what actually happened. Don't know for sure though, that video hasn't been released I don't think.
I'm sure it will be used in his defense so its smart to hold on to it.

He'll likely get involuntary manslaughter and get probation. Cops in jail is avoided as much as possible.



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