Group B

iTrader: (3)

dude it would be nice to find an AK-74, run 5.54x39...

jdepould

iTrader: (2)

How would an AK be better than a G36 in combat? AK's aren't known for their accuracy.

Group B

iTrader: (3)

well you'd have to pit a couple platoons against one-another, one armed with AK's, and the other with G36's.

I'm sure either group would defeat the other, regardless of weapons.

The G36 uses the 5.56 NATO round, which makes up for its lack of bullet diameter, when compared to the 7.62x39 AK round, with blistering muzzle velocity.

Although AK's are indeed not known for their accuracy, but their reliability in harsh combat conditions is known universally to be second-to-none.

The only other rifle that could rival it in that department would be the Israeli Galil, which incidentally, was designed based on the AK.

The AK may be heavy rifle, but it wasn't too much for small female VC members to wield during the Vietnam war, and it makes a menacing sound on the battlefield.

The latest AK variant, the AK-74, uses a 5.54x39 round, with a copper-jacketed bullet that has a steel tip and core.

This round is so deadly, like the 5.56 NATO, that during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, it was known as the "poison bullet".

I personally prefer HK rifles and AR-15s to AKs, but the AK deserves tremendous respect.

brucelee

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Are you going to be shooting someone from 800 yards away in a real combat situation? I think not. Most likely most combat situations call for 100-500 feet. The AK is PLENTY accurate.

Unless you're really **** about keeping the G36 clean and happy, chances are that you will have issues after a while. Like my friend David said, nothing comes close to an AK in reliability. The G36 may be a tad more accurate, but if I wanted accurate, I wouldn't use either of them... I'd have an M14 with .308 and I'd shoot you from 1100yards away... before you could even see me.

.308 = sex0r

brucelee

iTrader: (6)

Oh wait... You play video games that have G36s and they are the greatest... my bad. You're right.

Group B

iTrader: (3)

Yeah I don't really get why H&K went from their ultra-reliable delayed-blowback system to a gas-powered one, in light of the lessons the M-16 tought us...

oh and yeah, 7.62 NATO r0x0rs!!!

jdepould

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I love this . . . gimmie a break, regardless of my gaming habits, I do know a thing or two. I didn't say that AK's were bad weapons, I merely said that I would prefer a G36 over the AK.

Salty

iTrader: (14)

Now let's not get crazy here unless you’ve actually done it...

And although the glock is a good, reliable weapon it has nothing on Sig and any 1911 frame as a primary. A pistol shouldn't be too light because you'll sacrifice a stable hand for good shot placement. Sprint a 100m and pull the glock on a coke can at 25ft as compared to the heavier frame Sig or 1911. I rest my case...

Your accuracy has already been depleted due to the short barrel of the pistol. Why compromise it even more with a light frame that shakes every time you take a breath or your finger pulses? This is why glocks are the ideal backup firearm for many LEO agencies because it's light on your ankle during a run.

Now for the AK47 VS G36 debate.

I've shot both and actually helped the fallschirjager 313 paratroopers develop their CQB SOP on the G36 platform. And for what it's worth I earned my gold schutzenschnur medal with the G36 among another weapons. I also trained with the G36 in the UK and in the U.S. under the land warrior project.

For those of us that've actually shot the G36 and AK47 know that both are good weapons for particular environments. Both have pros and cons such as weight distribution and accuracy. Given ideal tolerances on both weapons, the G36 is more accurate than the AK47. The problem with the G36 is how light it is compared to the AK47. It's a superb weapon on nice days but add wind into the combination and I dare you to try and plink a can at 300meters on a knee. As a matter of fact try and hit that can at 100meters offhand. That said, it's a great weapon during a 30click movement but bad when Charlie is at a distance.

The AK47 is a workhorse of a weapon and has been since it was introduced. You can literally smear mud into the action and fire the weapon as if it was fine. Much like the M-16 platform, the G36 was built on tight tolerances and hates mud and grit for this very reason. There's a reason why your AR-15 has that forward assist and it's not for aesthetic reasons.

On the other hand the G36 is a much more versatile weapon. It has a built in CCO and red dot capability without batteries! You slide forward the built in plate over the solar power disc and voila! Red dot. There is a battery backup if conditions call for it. Furthermore, there's a built in polymer tripod when conditions call for it. And lastly, the stock collapses for certain CQB instances and the weapon hardly ever jams. Add all these factors along with the fact the 556mm cartridge is ideal for CQB as compared to the 762 and the G36 > AK47 for CQB

On the other hand, if I needed a reliable weapon in ****ty, windy conditions I'd go for the Ak47.

brucelee

iTrader: (6)

Why should I give you a break? Am I right? Have you been in combat with either weapon? Have you shot either of them at a range?

brucelee

iTrader: (6)

PS: I wasn't talking to you Salt.

Salty

iTrader: (14)

It's debatable either way fellas... For example, My SOP for CQB differed from others regarding muzzles in the fatal funnel, use of markers etc etc.

Even though Daniel and I disagree on the Glock vs Sig/1911 it really doesn't make a big difference. I have my reasons beyond what I’ve mention before... like how I dislike the safety on the Glock (or lack thereof) etc.

Likewise, Daniel has his reasons for the opposite. Bottom line is that a Glock, G36 and good functioning Ak47 are all solid weapons. The real debate lies in the skill of the shooter.

brucelee

iTrader: (6)

Saltmeister,

I actually prefer a Sig (220, 229) as my pistol of choice, I love them... However, if I were in a combat situation, I wouldn't choose Sig as my primary weapon... I'd use a glock (or a springfield XD). Simply because they are reliable as hell.

Salty

iTrader: (14)

Never shot an XD before... how would you rate them on a scale to 1-10 if Glock was a 5? Just Curious...

I'm more old fashioned I guess... give me a Colt with match barrel and bushings any day. And for the record I own a Glock model 27 for home protection.

ldivinag

iTrader: (3)

i'll say this once again...

lets do an IDPA course/match.

chabot has it once a month.

PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

brucelee

iTrader: (6)

can I bring my AK?