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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Try to lie as much as possible so that they don't think it's a special event. All you need to do basically is to down play how many people we have and not tell them about ANY of the events we have planned... All they need to know about is the BBQ and that some folks are showing up... Thats ALL they need to know, otherwise we have to pay like a couple grand for the special event permit which basically rents out the entire park.

So yeah, lie lie lie!!! I've done it many times in the past, it's easy. It's not like we're getting over on the park, we're still paying them BAAANK for this event, not to mention the money they get from the parking from everyone.

In the end we both win... We get the site for a decent price and they get a bunch of money from us. It'd be cool if we could get like $100 of spare money to buy them a little gift from BAIC... Or if we could write them a check for a donation that goes DIRECTLY to the park instead of going through all the channels it normally has to go through. We did this for the observatory for 3 years in a row... I think we threw in like $200 one year straight to the observatory. The lady that tends the place knows us and says we're the best car club that comes around there.

But yeah, this meet takes a lot of time and a lot of money to make happen, I'm glad that someone else stepped up to the plate for once! You guys rock for doing this... And maybe now people will realize how much time and effort this thing actually takes to set up... Perhaps you wont be attacked by anyone like ipozesedu for your efforts to make this happen... You'll get a lot of people that get jealous and want to take this meet into their own hands and make it into something completely different, but this meet is what it is and will stay this way forever.
We aren't here to bash anyone, so please stop doing that. For once we WILL work together on this, everyone, and try to make it happen.

Well, I won't bring up anything to them, and we'll just see if the parks lady ever calls me back.
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kYLEMtnCRUZr
you mean take this meet from a parking lot to Laguna Seca 2007? sounded good to me.
Please quit with the motorsports deal already. You are more than welcome to start a meet with motorsports involved, it's not going to happen with this meet this year.
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 12:00 AM
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i never said this year in the past 2 posts, i used past tense words to refer to the potential plans that were discussed last year for 2007 Hammy... a little bird told me we were pretty close to a sick day at Laguna Seca.
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Please quit with the motorsports deal already. You are more than welcome to start a meet with motorsports involved, it's not going to happen with this meet this year.
Yeah. Seriously. Do you have any idea what it even costs to host a motorsports venue, especially in Summer? And especially at Infineon or Laguna Seca? You have to take into account things like Emergency workers, track staff, facility rental, track rental, etc. It isn't cheap.

I am sure if you ask Ed or Gagan, they could probably give you a ballpark figure on site rentals for auto-x, not to mention the nitty-gritty like insurance, paperwork, etc., not to mention the limited choices of quality sites.

Quite frankly, I don't think a "motorsports" event would be remotely possible next year, or within in the next few years for that matter. I know that people mean well, but let's face the facts here. You guys are having trouble right now for this years event. What makes you think that a motorsport event/meet is even in your range? You are already having trouble accommodating 300+ cars. And how do you expect to find enough participants to put on a break even event for say a track day or an auto-x?
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Originally Posted by kYLEMtnCRUZr
i never said this year in the past 2 posts, i used past tense words to refer to the potential plans that were discussed last year for 2007 Hammy... a little bird told me we were pretty close to a sick day at Laguna Seca.
Laguna Seca sounds great for a BAIC meet, however, it will not replace the annual meet. 90+% of people want the meet to remain as what it is, it's a VERY large meet+greet with lots of food, music, people, not to mention the other stuff involved. It's a social gathering, always has been, and always will be.

No one has objections to planning a Laguna meet, NO ONE... What I don't understand is why the few of you guys are trying to replace the current meet with the race car meet? Why not have both? It's not like we can only have ONE meet.

The annual meet and the way it is always attracts a lot of people because it's inexpensive and really fun, unless of course you're a sociopath and don't like talking to people, then I can see how it would suck. It's simple and fun, not only for the i-club member, but for friends and family too!

The problem with a race track day is that you wont get NEARLY as many people to attend. It costs a lot, its far, and many folks don' like tracking their cars... Sucks, but thats the reality. We make the annual meet the way it is because EVERYONE can attend, and its also fun for everyone, that is the reason we have 400ish people that show up.

We do it because it applies to everyone, unlike a track day which is very specific as to what kind of people attend so you'd be leaving out many people from the meet.

Like I said, no one is stopping you from creating a meet of your own, we just can't get rid of the current meet to accommodate a race track day.
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
We aren't here to bash anyone, so please stop doing that. For once we WILL work together on this, everyone, and try to make it happen.

Well, I won't bring up anything to them, and we'll just see if the parks lady ever calls me back.
I'm not name calling or bashing, simply pointing out that this meet is expensive and takes a lot of effort, so perhaps now some folks who didn't believe me will understand how much $$ and time it takes.

Thanks again Gaganmeister for doing this man... I didn't want to say anything before, but I was really hoping YOU would step up and take over this meet... I didn't want to pressure you, but I'm really glad you did mang.

also, you can count on me to help on the day of (and the day before).
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kYLEMtnCRUZr
you mean take this meet from a parking lot to Laguna Seca 2007? sounded good to me.
yeah, this is getting old. all from someone who doesn't see the point of a track day in the first place...




Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Please quit with the motorsports deal already. You are more than welcome to start a meet with motorsports involved, it's not going to happen with this meet this year.
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 01:34 AM
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yeah, this is getting old. all from someone who doesn't see the point of a track day in the first place...
As great of an idea it is to actually have an I-Club Meet/track day, there are some serious obstacles that have to be overcome. Just ask the NorCalEvo guys.

Track days, if not any motorsport, is expensive to organize. The Hypermeet in January, that was planned to be an "exclusive" Subaru and Mitsubishi track day, which was awesome, didn't quite get the numbers that the organizers were looking for.

For the record, I had a blast, and I had a s***load of seat time.

My point being... the event was publicized for 9 months. I knew of it since March last year. I bumped the their thread a bunch of times in the last three months prior to the event to get more people out there.

The end result, 4 Subaru's, GST, and ucbsti (in his Evo) showed up. Sure... you might say it was Thunderhill. Sure, you might say it was forecasted to rain. I heard that a good 20-25 people didn't even show up.

The point being, if we can't even get enough people from two or more forums to commit to a track day, or any motorsports for that matter, how in the world do you plan to get enough people to commit from a single forum?
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Originally Posted by darkonion
As great of an idea it is to actually have an I-Club Meet/track day, there are some serious obstacles that have to be overcome. Just ask the NorCalEvo guys.

Track days, if not any motorsport, is expensive to organize. The Hypermeet in January, that was planned to be an "exclusive" Subaru and Mitsubishi track day, which was awesome, didn't quite get the numbers that the organizers were looking for.

For the record, I had a blast, and I had a s***load of seat time.

My point being... the event was publicized for 9 months. I knew of it since March last year. I bumped the their thread a bunch of times in the last three months prior to the event to get more people out there.

The end result, 4 Subaru's, GST, and ucbsti (in his Evo) showed up. Sure... you might say it was Thunderhill. Sure, you might say it was forecasted to rain. I heard that a good 20-25 people didn't even show up.

The point being, if we can't even get enough people from two or more forums to commit to a track day, or any motorsports for that matter, how in the world do you plan to get enough people to commit from a single forum?

that was the biggest storm in a while. The volvo track day the day before the hypermeet was cancelled. if you had called the track that day, they were planning on canceling the hypermeet as well. More like 30+ people didn't show up for that day. i think its mainly because the evo guys are whiners and didnt want to drive in the rain HAHAHA j/k

It is very hard to organize anything nowadays. people are flaky, dont pay, dont want to pay, and such. Believe me, im all for a BAIC mortorsports day of somesorts, i just wont be "the hammy meet"
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Originally Posted by international B
that was the biggest storm in a while. The volvo track day the day before the hypermeet was cancelled. if you had called the track that day, they were planning on canceling the hypermeet as well. More like 30+ people didn't show up for that day. i think its mainly because the evo guys are whiners and didnt want to drive in the rain HAHAHA j/k

It is very hard to organize anything nowadays. people are flaky, dont pay, dont want to pay, and such. Believe me, im all for a BAIC mortorsports day of somesorts, i just wont be "the hammy meet"
Yeah... and it didn't even rain that much that day. Maybe a few minutes here and there. Not a big deal.
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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yeah, this is getting old. all from someone who doesn't see the point of a track day in the first place...
and i wanted you to be my instructor on my first lap

I know the point of a track day, im not retarded
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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There isn't a need right now, but if EB Parks feels we might fit the bill of a "Special Event", well, we will have to show proof of such insurance. We'll see what we can do. I just hope we have enough financial support to take care of all this.

1-817-776-5444 Chase insurance. Used them before once and they seemed to be pretty cheap, you can get from 1 to as many days as you like.

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I'm only financially backing Jourdan, I still expect that he will be putting the meet together. I'm also here to help him in whatever else he needs.
Old Apr 13, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
I'm only financially backing Jourdan, I still expect that he will be putting the meet together. I'm also here to help him in whatever else he needs.
and I want to Thank you Gagan for all of your help...

I have been lurking in the shadows whilst contacting vendors and such...

Personally I don't think we should lie to the park... I don't think we will need a special event permit... our "events" will be very low key... the only thing that might be stepping over the line would be the vendors selling their schwag...

But I have to say that after talking to the vendors I am getting REALLY excited for all of this...
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