just got pulled over leaving wingstop state ref !

Old Oct 2, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Look what I found:

27150.2 (b)

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27150_2.htm

Can't believe that it's still in there! This means that if you can find the testing procedures stated there, and show your exhaust complies and get that in writing from a CHP office, then you should be in good shape.
Means if you get cited and the ref stations were open...you could go get tested, certified ok & then take that to court to show compliance. 95Db or less as measured by BAR = peachy

Sucks you have to get cited to get certified, it would be great to be able to upgrade your exhaust, get that setup certified, and have your paperwork ready in case SJPD or another local agency decides it needs to do an enforcement push.
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As far as searches, ask politely what the exact probable cause is :

http://www.chp.ca.gov/pdf/media/01-10.pdf
Nice.... Will print and distribute.

Originally Posted by Lboogie
Sucks you have to get cited to get certified, it would be great to be able to upgrade your exhaust, get that setup certified, and have your paperwork ready in case SJPD or another local agency decides it needs to do an enforcement push.
True that does suck... I wonder if there is anyone out there who is certified or official that has a dB meter, or if it would even help to have test results from your car's system in your car (I am thinking not).
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 07:42 AM
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Note: New law (27150.2 VC) Citation is based on officer's judgment.

boo =(
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
27150?

Those are correctable, just go to court for an arraignment with the corrections signed off by any officer, the judge should take care of it.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27150.htm
that's wat i thought that they were both correctable but the officer marked on the ticket that the Blow off valve is correctable and the exhaust one is non correctable. I never understood that. But I will just put my stock blow off valve on and put stock downpipe on and see if i pass the state ref check.
Thx for ur help GaGaN bhaaji
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Originally Posted by 03_Impreza_Al
Note: New law (27150.2 VC) Citation is based on officer's judgment.

boo =(
Its the officers 'Subjective' judgement, which is not based on an actual measurement, just their "trained ear". The way to defeat that is to use 'Objective' judgement, aka measured data, aka a Db test at a ref station.

If you bring it up in court; you would exemplify this by getting the judge to agree that officers use radar guns to get an 'accurate' (objective) mph reading, rather than their visual perception to get an 'accurate' (subjective) mph reading.
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Originally Posted by 03_Impreza_Al
Note: New law (27150.2 VC) Citation is based on officer's judgment.

boo =(
Told you. You can get the ticket over and over again, at least under section (b) you can get a cert and then you're good to go I think. The cop could still give you a ref ticket if they want to though, the cert is more for court than for the cop.
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Originally Posted by Lboogie
Its the officers 'Subjective' judgement, which is not based on an actual measurement, just their "trained ear". The way to defeat that is to use 'Objective' judgement, aka measured data, aka a Db test at a ref station.

If you bring it up in court; you would exemplify this by getting the judge to agree that officers use radar guns to get an 'accurate' (objective) mph reading, rather than their visual perception to get an 'accurate' (subjective) mph reading.
somewhat true, I took a cop to court who wrote me a speeding ticket when he was standing on the side of the road. I won.

Now, a cop would win if was "pacing you", his word against yours. Highly subjective, but he will win every time.
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that's wat i thought that they were both correctable but the officer marked on the ticket that the Blow off valve is correctable and the exhaust one is non correctable. I never understood that. But I will just put my stock blow off valve on and put stock downpipe on and see if i pass the state ref check.
Thx for ur help GaGaN bhaaji
Make sure your exhaust is stock too.


Oh, BTW, you don't have a state ref ticket! It's just a fix it ticket if it's 27150. Check the ticket for the CVC again.
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Wow. I didn't know the CHP was so 'hip'.
woah woah woah woah woha

you knew about FTB it was milans favorite line we had thread on that on nasioc


Illegal windshield washer nozzle lights. Only white or yellow are allowed. (25106 VC, 24003 VC).
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my first state ref was $360, and my 2nd was $509.. =[ eeekk!!
my frist and only one was 1100Q$
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Make sure your exhaust is stock too.


Oh, BTW, you don't have a state ref ticket! It's just a fix it ticket if it's 27150. Check the ticket for the CVC again.
It is state ref ticket as on the back of the ticket it says State Ref required NO Officer sign off. And i called that number that everyone else called ... and the office is closed and they gave me the number to Department of Consumer Affairs and the person over there told me I just gotta wait until state ref stations open and take my car over there. Another question
Can I sell my car while i still have this ticket and not clear it?

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