oooo.. this may be good.. off shore drilling means more jobs, which means more money movement, which means less economic problems...

 

Easy, it lies within the Gasoline and Diesel figures. What exactly do you think they burn. Keep in mind that that 1.6% may seem small to you, but the amount being used is considerable. Of course these don't even account for all the small generators which will be running more often as energy companies struggle to supply the needed power have to run rolling blackouts cause such a large amount of people decided to purchase electric cars and are always charging them. Then of course you have the diesel being burnt that powers the large machinery to mine coal and the larger/more often shipments of coal by train.

No matter how you reason it, you end up just temporarily sweeping the problem under the rug and end up with it still sitting in front of you. The electric car is a good idea, but no matter how you put it the support to make it a real solution just isn't there yet. It will be eventually, but for now the need for more oil sources is there along with more jobs that this oil drilling will create.

Interesting fact, most watercraft/ships use diesel fuel for electric generation. Even the nuclear subs and aircraft carriers used by the navy (never again volunteer yourself) use diesel for electric generation.

Now that is what needs to happen along with other alternative renewable sources and to make electric cars feasable and affordable. I don't know about such a car paying for itself unless you're planning to have said car for get a job. Maybe offset the difference in a comparable gas car in 5-10 years depending on driving habbits if electric costs stay low. The initial cost isn't that big a deal, people buy cars of all sorts that are overpriced. It's all about what someone wants.


Of course my real ingenious plan for solving the nation's energy problems involves just removing the state of california altogether, but somehow I doubt any of you would like that very much.

 

off shore oil means economic rescue ...... yeah thats it... lets rape the peta's while we are at it. And have the green peace boats ram the oil rigs.. lolIt will create more jobs.... Some one needs to go clean up...

And think of new job ads for pirates.. Theres gold out there...

Ah wait I'm just bored..

 

Nothing creating new armed security gaurd jobs won't fix. I wouldn't mind sitting on a boat cruising around with large caliber weapons, getting paid big bucks from the oil company to protect the rig. For some reason that sounds sorta like my current job...

 

I just showed you 1 graph that showed where refined oil goes to, and the other which PRECISELY shows how much of the energy produced in the US is done with oil... at 1.6%.

The refined oil chart shows HUGE dominance in terms of how much oil gets turned into Diesel and Gasoline, pretty much the biggest chunk.

Energy companies use diesel generators as backups? Sounds good to me... So how often do they do this? Like a few blackout/brownouts a year right? Cause usually, we create so much more energy than we use, so some of it goes to waste, usually at night... EVERY night.

But seriously, you should really show some numbers, maybe some charts... some links to some studies maybe...

How about this:

diesel/gas is use mostly in vehicles. So that's where if we reduce the amount of fuel we use, we lower the amount of fuel that gets refined, we buy less crude... the price goes down. It's all simple economics... So for your precious diesel generator/boat owners they'd benefit cause the price WILL drop. Its not like the diesel/gas they use is refined differently, it's all refined the same and then additives are added by the brands.

For you to even think, believe, that oil platforms that will be operational in 6-10yrs are the answer to our short term issue is preposterous. In the long term is buys us something, but very little really, and it's stupid, cause we need to STOP burning fossil fuels asap. not when electric car tech matures, NOW. It's quite mature thank you very much, enough that in the next 6 years while they are building that stupid ****ing platforms in the ocean and pumping frozen oil out of Alaska there will be a large amount of plug-in hybrids on the road already and also electric cars.

So this time, don't humor me, show me something substantial... give it some real effort to show us how awesome drilling is, and how our electric bill is going to go up $200-300 a month charging an electric car.

 

Do you work in/for the oil industry?

 

I use to

 

Nope.

I'm not bothering to post figures or sources simply because from my experience all the facts and truth in the world doesn't prove an argument over the net, I know I've tried. My statements come from my own experience and expertise, besides you have yet to post any sources that discount anything that I have said. You yet again just continue to post something completely off the wall that is unrelated or not what I said.

Question is why do you keep missinterpretting what I am saying and arguing a completely different thing. Point being when did I say that these platforms are the end all be all? When did I say they will be built that fast? I said jobs!!! Jobs will be created sooner and later due to this. I swear talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.

 

 

Hardly


I understand it creates jobs, but that's not how it's being pitched, it's being pitched as a way to help become "energy independent" and also to help lower the price of oil, which it will, in about 10 ten years... ever so slightly.

You want to create jobs? Vote yes for the CA high speed rail, vote yes for infrastructure bonds and taxes, cause we need more public transit, and better designed network of freeway systems, cause the population is booming.

Jobs off shore in TX? not really what I'm thinking of when it comes to jobs for people.