Honda knew many buyers of their Rsx-s and Civic Si will mod their cars, so their horsepower went largely unchanged. Look at them now. Nobody buys their "performance" cars anymore. I rarely even see any modified Hondas on the road anymore.

The STi is following this route and may get discontinued in the future. Why buy an STi when you can get a wrx for cheaper. Or you could even get an Audi S3 (base price $41k) for a tad higher than the STi, that performs similarly and doesn't look like a boy racer. Has less claimed HP and beats the STi in a straight line and on the track. Even if you don't agree with the results from the video below, it still can keep up with an STi, and has a much better interior.

 

and goes **** belly up with electrical problems, fuel injection problems, and oil leaks from every seal in the car, at 60k miles.

 

LOL you mean the motors that drop valves faster than a fat chick diving on a ice cream cake? You mean the motors that eat rings because of poor ring issues quicker than a red head on a bowl of *****?

Sure the EJ has its issues and needs a few tweaks, but its still a proven, and reliable engine. Lets compare shall we, how many EJ 207/25/255/257's are out there running 100k+ and how many other cars can compare (Hint: not many)

 

Hard to say, I am not really big on making authoritative statements based on zero knowledge, so I will just say: I doubt it.

And you are 100% correct, American Fords always have been absolute rubbish (though they are getting better today, mostly via introducing the Euro cars to the US). We are talking about European Fords, like the current/new Focus, which are completely different cars.

Take the 90's Ford Escort. In the US, all we ever saw was this FWD pile of absolute TRASH where you would be lucky to get ~10k miles out of it before the head cracked and made the head gasket useless.

In Europe, even the base model was a fun-to-drive RWD hatch that was not remotely similar - AT ALL - to the US model. You could even get a turbo. Then, they came out with the AWD turbo and even Cosworth models that were world-class rally cars. Most Americans have never even SEEN one.

You don't think one car is better than another? I mean, anyone that has lived through 1970-2000 American cars and has even a shred of interest in cars could not possibly say that. Chevy Cavalier/Caddy Cimmaron paved a new trail into the world of being a piece of ****. How about the Chevy Citation? Remember those? Seen one in the last twenty years? Neither have I because they have all basically rotted away.

My 1991 Justy is "better" than anything that GM or Ford produced in America from 1975 to 2002. Shoot, any run of the mill Datsun, Honda or Toyota is just plain and simply better from the quality of materials to the rust proofing to the way they were assembled. I remember pulling the door panel off an 80's Cadillac that was brand new and seeing it rusty inside already. Ten year old Japanese cars did not have this problem. GM cars had a plastic strip with holes in it to wind the windows up while Civics had a great set of metal gears.

Ford has realized what they needed to do insofar as interior quality, fit and finish, ergonomics, and aesthetics. They have addressed this, I think a few years ago, when they announced that Audi was the new target for these points. I personally feel they have done a great job - but the real problem is they took 20 years too long to do this, and have quite possibly alienated all the people that cared about this sort of thing - such as yourself. Take a look at one, I am not saying you will like it or that you should like it, but you cannot help but notice that the interior quality has significantly improved.

 

A few tweaks? Replacing the Pistons and rods is not a few tweaks. The 2.5 is well known for being weak, even in its N/A days it blew head gaskets and now the cast pieces they use on the 'Hi Performance' motors can just badly handle stock power let alone an added 25-30 from Modifications. The newer 4g63 is a performance pillar compared to paper mâché EJ25s

 

Just so you know the 6.0 in the fords suck *** haha

 

How so? 03-05's had head gasket issues and egr issues but those are easily fixed. The 06 and 07 have minor issues as do all cars and trucks.
They have a badass transmission unlike the faithful 7.3 and they get better power and milage. Stay away from the 6.4 tho.
If you wanted a psd that you wanted to mod. Get a 03-05 and bulletproof it. California legal egr delete and arp headstuds. If you want coils instead of leafs and less problems then get the 06-07 psd. Still needs some work. 5.9 cummins is the king of all engines but would be better in a ford built truck.

 

The 6.0 has everything wrong with it. you can make it a good motor but thats with anything. It goes from egr issues to injectors to anything possible lol. I used to work for Ford and 90% of trucks that came in were 6.0. yes the 6.4 is garbage also the new 6.7 is nice though atleast so far. I'd take the cummins even if its in a dodge haha