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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mcdrama
Assuming you're not an idiot and you keep BOTH hands on the wheel.

One of the biggest driving peaves I have is people that put one hand on the wheel at the 12 o'clock position. You have the least control of your vehicle when steering with one hand!

1) If your air bag deploys, your hand will be forced to punch the ceiling, or your face. If you have a watch on your hand, it will most likely be imprinted on your forhead. In addition to this, your ONLY steering input is no longer on the wheel, so gravity and momentum steers you after impact.

2) You don't see rally drivers steering with one hand except when shifting.

3) Like Ed said, look where you want your car to go. This does not mean look directly in front of your car. Look 5 car lengths ahead of you.
LOL.. My friend has a totalled FD in his garage with his fist print in the windshield above the wheel as well as a broken pair of sunglasses. Now he drives a Subaru with both hands.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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i love all these great threads; lots of informative posts. i mean, cuz its so important that after a major front impact (i mean, your airbag deployed so it must been at speed), that you still have both hands on the steering wheel so u can give input to your now ****ed up front suspension... oh and since youll have a powder in your eyes, it'll be very informative input since you can see so well.

i havent been on the board for awhile, how does the [expert advice] tag work?

perhaps rally drivers dont use just 1 hand because they dont have power steering? or maybe because of the bumpy terrain they have to have more stabilization provided by two hands, vs just 1 for on the street?

im sure all the l33t iclub drivers use the chp recommended 8-4 steering position at all times (especially while turning hard) leaving every other method to the n00bs.

edit: personally i use the technique perfected by the great subydude which can be briefly defined as doing the left hand princess wave out the window whilst drifting.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by soundwave


i dropped by bike at a stopsign once and blamed it on my cold tires.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bikecraft
i dropped by bike at a stopsign once and blamed it on my cold tires.
Paint lines, road stripes, moisture are all the enemy. Part of being a good rider/driver is not driving too fast for the conditions or your skill level. 1 person accidents are usually completely user error.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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You might want to have a look at Falken ST-115's. I've got them on my car and they have two huge rain grooves - pretty bad *** in my opinion, couldn't break it loose the other night and I was taking a left hander at around 30 to 35 - moderate speed.
Old Oct 7, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Onizuka
You might want to have a look at Falken ST-115's. I've got them on my car and they have two huge rain grooves - pretty bad *** in my opinion, couldn't break it loose the other night and I was taking a left hander at around 30 to 35 - moderate speed.
I loved the st-115s I had on my 17" wheels. They were even decent in snow, if you believe it. I had them in 235/40 .
Old Oct 7, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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I drive with my left hand at 10-oclock and my right hand on the shifter... Been doing that for a long *** time. left hand at 12 seems silly though. It's a rare day when I put my right hand on the wheel going faster than 5 mph. (hand over hand for U-turns)

I've found 1 hand on wheel allows me to keep the other hand on the shifter. Lets me shift when surprised. I like having control over all the driver inputs at once.

I haven't noticed any lack of control over the vehicle, even when hitting stuff. Even under rally conditions, you only really need 1 hand until it gets gnarly. Its a perfectable technique that takes practice, just like anything.

(anybody remember that guy in Initial D 4th stage who had the 1 hand drive technique in the blue S2000? Like that)
Old Oct 7, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mulcibre
I drive with my left hand at 10-oclock and my right hand on the shifter... Been doing that for a long *** time. left hand at 12 seems silly though. It's a rare day when I put my right hand on the wheel going faster than 5 mph. (hand over hand for U-turns)

I've found 1 hand on wheel allows me to keep the other hand on the shifter. Lets me shift when surprised. I like having control over all the driver inputs at once.

I haven't noticed any lack of control over the vehicle, even when hitting stuff. Even under rally conditions, you only really need 1 hand until it gets gnarly. Its a perfectable technique that takes practice, just like anything.

(anybody remember that guy in Initial D 4th stage who had the 1 hand drive technique in the blue S2000? Like that)
That is the silliest thing I have heard.

If you've done any kind of track events or even autocross you'd know that you'd need both hands on the wheel at all times to react fast to any situation. Shifting isn't going to do you anything to control your car or regain control.
Old Oct 7, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Onizuka
You might want to have a look at Falken ST-115's. I've got them on my car and they have two huge rain grooves - pretty bad *** in my opinion, couldn't break it loose the other night and I was taking a left hander at around 30 to 35 - moderate speed.
they are discontinued
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