F the police :/ -- Rant
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Sounds like an easy win in court....as previously mentioned. The cop wrote your buddy a ticket for something he didn't see him do. Unless of course the cop lies in court. Otherwise, the judge will ask the cop if he saw your buddy skating. The cop will say no. Ticket dismissed. At least it sounds logical.
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Originally Posted by stg2lgcy00
I have to agree with you. I never wear a helmet, its just too bulky and it throws off my balance. I don't mind risking getting hurt cause I know how to fall the proper way and walk away without serious injury. I've walked away COUNTLESS times from stuff where I should have broke my leg, arm, twisted something but came out with not more than a scrape or cut. One of the biggest factors in skateboarding is that you get the adrenaline rush knowing that you could fall, but then manage to hit your trick and roll away. If I wore a helmet and pads all the time skating would just be boring cause I wouldn't have to worry about falling. The risk of injury is what give skaters the consistence in their tricks, you know you could fall but you determine yourself to land it to beat the odds and not get hurt. People who don't skate will never understand this. I've been skating for almost 10 years and never broke 1 bone, and never had anything more serious than a sprained ankle. Helmets and pads are more for kids who are stll learning and don't know how to fall properly, once you learn that then skateboarding is actually relativley safe when compared to other sports.
nobody mentioned that the cop could've made them just leave, is Walnut Creek really in need of money that they have to take it from a few people in a recreational facility.... everyone stop skating.. lets all join gangs... TIA!!!
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
I don't see any perjury in what I told him to do?
I simply said go to court with a dr's note. I am sure that the dr. told him it was stupid to ride his skateboard with his cast on and to take a break. I know that's what they told me. It's true that the dr. said that. it's true that he had a cast on. it's true that he was not skating when the police officer arrived. it's true that the police officer did NOT see him skating.
I'm just saying state the facts.
He was there watching his buddies skate.
If he is asked if he was there skating he can't lie. so he can simply say I decline to answer that on account of my 5th ammendment rights. bottom line. the officer did NOT see him skating and can NOT give him a ticket...lawfully.
I'd take this **** to court in an instant and I guarantee I'd win.
I have a hard time believing that the government put out a dime for that skate park. I'm not sure obviously as I'm not from there and just plain don't know. But I'd imagine that it was purchased with tax payer dollars and donations from citizens.
Most skate parks go up because of the work put in by citizens. If it were up to the police they'd say no skate parks and they'd say no skating on the streets. Just one more thing taken away from the youth to do that's constructive. God forbid kids have something to do that doesn't revolve around parties, drugs and booze.
I think it's bull**** myself. I bet that cop rolled up to the skate park driving without his seatbelt on and made a few lane changes without a blinker and probably rolled a couple stop signs. Bet that same cop road his skate board or bicycle without a helmet...yeah for california laws to "save lives" and raise money.
I simply said go to court with a dr's note. I am sure that the dr. told him it was stupid to ride his skateboard with his cast on and to take a break. I know that's what they told me. It's true that the dr. said that. it's true that he had a cast on. it's true that he was not skating when the police officer arrived. it's true that the police officer did NOT see him skating.
I'm just saying state the facts.
He was there watching his buddies skate.
If he is asked if he was there skating he can't lie. so he can simply say I decline to answer that on account of my 5th ammendment rights. bottom line. the officer did NOT see him skating and can NOT give him a ticket...lawfully.
I'd take this **** to court in an instant and I guarantee I'd win.
I have a hard time believing that the government put out a dime for that skate park. I'm not sure obviously as I'm not from there and just plain don't know. But I'd imagine that it was purchased with tax payer dollars and donations from citizens.
Most skate parks go up because of the work put in by citizens. If it were up to the police they'd say no skate parks and they'd say no skating on the streets. Just one more thing taken away from the youth to do that's constructive. God forbid kids have something to do that doesn't revolve around parties, drugs and booze.
I think it's bull**** myself. I bet that cop rolled up to the skate park driving without his seatbelt on and made a few lane changes without a blinker and probably rolled a couple stop signs. Bet that same cop road his skate board or bicycle without a helmet...yeah for california laws to "save lives" and raise money.
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I once got a ticket for riding my bicycle with HEAD PHONES on!!!! $75 ticket!!!
Best thing about it was, it was a CHP!!!! What the hell?!??! Bastards. I could have out ran him since I was on a bike and he was in a car and the were trails and an overpass... But I stopped for some stupid reason. I ate the ticket infront of him btw.../
Best thing about it was, it was a CHP!!!! What the hell?!??! Bastards. I could have out ran him since I was on a bike and he was in a car and the were trails and an overpass... But I stopped for some stupid reason. I ate the ticket infront of him btw.../
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
I think it's bull**** myself. I bet that cop rolled up to the skate park driving without his seatbelt on and made a few lane changes without a blinker and probably rolled a couple stop signs.
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Originally Posted by subie OCD
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Your buddy was breaking the law right? It is illegal to ride without a helmet. You said yourself the cop witnessed your buddy breaking the law. He got a ticket for it.
I mean, I know it sucks to get a ticket for riding without a helmet but seriously, how is the cop a dick for citing your friend when he was breaking the law?
Yes, the skateboarders b0rk3d the law by not wearing helmets and tried to get away with it by simply taking a seat when the cop showed up. I admit, that's an obvious way to get out of that ticket. But, isn't it just as 'cheap' for a cop to show up at a controlled venue that was built specifically for the purpose of keeping skateboarders out of other public places so that confrontations like this dont happen, along with the knowledge that kids usually dont where their helmets there? The kids are already doing their part by staying out of restricted public areas, to where more and more skateparks are being built these days. So, what good is the police officer doing for the community here? Serving and protecting? Maybe... by making kids where helmets; I can see that. However, it's clear that this guy was taking advantage of the situation because he can. Why would anyone support this?
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Originally Posted by Yin
Yes, the skateboarders b0rk3d the law by not wearing helmets and tried to get away with it by simply taking a seat when the cop showed up. I admit, that's an obvious way to get out of that ticket. But, isn't it just as 'cheap' for a cop to show up at a controlled venue that was built specifically for the purpose of keeping skateboarders out of other public places so that confrontations like this dont happen, along with the knowledge that kids usually dont where their helmets there? The kids are already doing their part by staying out of restricted public areas, to where more and more skateparks are being built these days. So, what good is the police officer doing for the community here? Serving and protecting? Maybe... by making kids where helmets; I can see that. However, it's clear that this guy was taking advantage of the situation because he can. Why would anyone support this?
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Hum…. I know exactly why cops are asked to show up at local skate parks and cite people for breaking laws and rules
The city has to watch its back when they decide to offer such recreations because it’s a hell-offa liability to them, and the insurance that comes with one of these skate parks isn’t cheap.
So cops are asked to drop in and cite people for not following the laws and rules set by the city.
That way if someone is to get hurt the city will then have a record of enforcement to show that they have been doing their part in making sure people were playing by the rules at the park and can defend themselves against some lazy parent trying to sue the city for their kids unsupervised death
I agree with whoever said “cops shouldnt be doing the parenting” but lawyers and jury’s don’t.
As for the cop being a dick. We’ll im sure he was a loser in high school and now with that badge he’s quite the cool guy (in his mind) but karma maybe someday will deliver his ego a nice hot bullet from a real criminal.
The city has to watch its back when they decide to offer such recreations because it’s a hell-offa liability to them, and the insurance that comes with one of these skate parks isn’t cheap.
So cops are asked to drop in and cite people for not following the laws and rules set by the city.
That way if someone is to get hurt the city will then have a record of enforcement to show that they have been doing their part in making sure people were playing by the rules at the park and can defend themselves against some lazy parent trying to sue the city for their kids unsupervised death
I agree with whoever said “cops shouldnt be doing the parenting” but lawyers and jury’s don’t.
As for the cop being a dick. We’ll im sure he was a loser in high school and now with that badge he’s quite the cool guy (in his mind) but karma maybe someday will deliver his ego a nice hot bullet from a real criminal.
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Hum…. I know exactly why cops are asked to show up at local skate parks and cite people for breaking laws and rules
The city has to watch its back when they decide to offer such recreations because it’s a hell-offa liability to them, and the insurance that comes with one of these skate parks isn’t cheap.
Hum…. I know exactly why cops are asked to show up at local skate parks and cite people for breaking laws and rules
The city has to watch its back when they decide to offer such recreations because it’s a hell-offa liability to them, and the insurance that comes with one of these skate parks isn’t cheap.
If some kid got seriously hurt one night, and I say 'kid' because I assume most of these guys still live with their folks, I would almost expect the parents to consult with an attorney about suing the city for negligence. A settlement would pay for all medical and not cause a raise of their health insurance premium, while also pocketing some significant cash for the kid's pain and suffering due to the city's lack of enforcement of its safety rules.
If you choose not to wear a helmet or your own seat belts, it doesn't affect me, although I would hope that you would do so just to help prevent serious injuries to yourself and maybe set an example for some younger skateboarder just starting out. I don't want any of you guys to get hurt doing something that should be fun recreation.
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Originally Posted by sonicsuby
See, so many people don't realize - you've got to follow the rules if you want to play. Regardless of the cops intentions, the kids were still breaking the law. Yeah, it sucks he got popped for no helmet, yet, had he been wearing a helmet (which isn't a big deal) he'd never have any of this trouble. I wear my helmet every time I get on my bike because it's safer to wear a helmet AND I don't want any trouble from police. If I went out without a helmet and got stopped yeah I'd be pissed but I'd have only my self to blame.
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I 100% understand that I/we were "breaking the law" but that does not change the fact that the cop was 100% ***** the entire time, which was the main point of this thread. Stupid law + pos cop = iclub rant
Zumnwrx & wingless, you make valid points but it is still BS imo. It sucks that people are unable to take responsibility for there actions and that there are lawyers to profit from this.
I totally agree that all was necessary was the cop to kick us out, and tell us to come back with a helmet. I would have gotten the point and NEVER came back!!!!! He would have done his job and still have my respect at the end of the day.
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Zumnwrx & wingless, you make valid points but it is still BS imo. It sucks that people are unable to take responsibility for there actions and that there are lawyers to profit from this.
I totally agree that all was necessary was the cop to kick us out, and tell us to come back with a helmet. I would have gotten the point and NEVER came back!!!!! He would have done his job and still have my respect at the end of the day.
Thanks for reading
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Originally Posted by STi-owns-evo
technically it's legal for a bike to be in the street as the street is supposed to be shared by both bicyclists and motor vehicles.
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