THIS is exactly why I love America!

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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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being a retired ff, these guys rule! that ish must of been REALLY damn hot.

made me proud when i watched it this morning.....

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PS and FWIW 5 min is the national average for response times in rural/metro fd's across the US.
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Allah wills it!!

On a side note...video is about 5 minutes long...and no firefighters show up.
Not baggin' on the FF, as they can't be verywhere.

Also, every *** hole that was just standing around doing nothing should be cited for general stupidity.
Too many people trying to help would impede to process.
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Awesome video!
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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Cell phones could explain the fire department's response time. I believe dialing 911 from a cell phone puts the call through to CHP dispatch rather than your local or nearest emergency response people. 911 from a cell phone also only allows for a very general, if any, idea of where the call is being placed from. It could take a critical amount of time to even establish where the emergency is.

Saving the emergency numbers for your local PD and FD in your phone is a good idea.
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SomethingClassy
Cell phones could explain the fire department's response time. I believe dialing 911 from a cell phone puts the call through to CHP dispatch rather than your local or nearest emergency response people. 911 from a cell phone also only allows for a very general, if any, idea of where the call is being placed from. It could take a critical amount of time to even establish where the emergency is.

Saving the emergency numbers for your local PD and FD in your phone is a good idea.
I've called 911 from my cell before and it went to emergency dispatch, not CHP.
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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The thing about the location is true. They only get a general area, or the nearest radio tower that the phone reaches.
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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if your city has advanced computer aided dispatch you will be put directly to your local dispatch. otherwise you are going to chp. certain city's such as hayward, newark and i believe fremont and others have this system.
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if your city has advanced computer aided dispatch you will be put directly to your local dispatch. otherwise you are going to chp. certain city's such as hayward, newark and i believe fremont and others have this system.
It was in Monterey, maybe because there is a lot less freeway travel in the area they don't forward you to CHP?
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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yea i don't know exactly which cities have or don't have the system but it seems like its spreading rather quickly in california. i keep alameda county's direct dispatch number on my cellphone and also some other 25 main emergency response numbers. turns out i was asleep one day and i got 8 calls back to back on my cellphone and house phone but i dont normally pick up numbers i dont know.. it was the emergency communicator system that was just put in place to dispatch us to fires when were out and about. good thing it was just a test.
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I loved all the yelling and standing. hahaha
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Man, goes to show how chaotic these type of scenarios really are. We hardly ever get to see something like this actually happening, we always see pictures of the aftermath which do not portray what went on at all compared to the video.

My adrenaline was pumping while watching that... Knowing the 2nd kid was trapped in there and being just 5 feet away from him and not being able to get him out (which they did eventually)... I think any of us would accept getting burned a bit to save the life of two kids and their mother... Anyone who wouldn't attempt to rescue them is def a very sociopathic, selfish, and careless son of a *****. Sadly, that happens a lot, people stand around and do nothing... understand the folks standing around in the video because there was already people doing their thing and they would just get in the way of the experts/people already working to save the person.

Personally, if I witnessed something like that and didn't do anything to help, I wouldn't be able to live with myself for life. I don't know how people operate sometimes... How can you watch someone in a horrific accident and not help? Damn people are worthless sometimes.
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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The boyscouts knife woulda came in handy there!
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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Just a quick question, are seat belt material made to be easily cut or are they pretty tough to get through? Will a cheap serrated pocket knife do the trick? Just wondering because maybe it's time to start carrying something around.
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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seat belts will resist everything lengthwise.

when in the Fire Dept, i carried a small knife that had a "hooked" razor blade, and a window poker. hook the seat belt, and yank, and the super sharp razor blade goes thru it like butter.

for tempered glass, the poker works like a charm. all it is is a pointed end that "clicks" after you load the spring up against the window. a shock wave shatters the tempered glass, making victims/things more accesible. trying to break out a front window with out it can be tough, especially without a haligon tool or an axe. Keep in mind front windows have a sheet of plastic in it to keep it intact in the case of an accident. you are trying to get the whole thing out, not shatter it. side windows should shatter without issue.

josh

PS and yes, any sharp knife should cut thru a seat belt ACROSS the belt, not lenghtwise.
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