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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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This a great thread BTW. Something we have in common beside cars. I(get high)-club.com
I agree. I am always pleased when people understand that Cannabis being a level 1 controlled substance is pure, utter Bull ****.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
I'm going to say "yes". It can make you hallucinate...
i can vouch for this, as far as his stories go. Hes been around the block

Werent you stationed in Hawaii!?
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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i get up go to work, come home and smoke til i go to sleep. everyday no matter what im doing that day wether it be, gym, friends, chillin, house work. whatever it is. im usually high (except for at work) i handle my buisiness then play all day. weekends im high the entire weekend.
never once have i seen **** from smoking weed. i have smoked salvia and u DO see **** when you smoke that.
as for it being legalized, i dont think it will ever be. but it WILL someday be tolerated and be ok to smoke it rather then having the DRUGS ARE BADDDDDDD look on it.

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 07whiteSTi
as for it being legalized, i dont think it will ever be.
Just wait until OUR generation gets into the white house.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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People on here should watch "Waiting to Inhale" by Jed Riffe. Especially the people who have never smoked but know so much.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
People on here should watch "Waiting to Inhale" by Jed Riffe. Especially the people who have never smoked but know so much.
also watch "Super High Me" should be in ur local blockbuster.

Doug Benson does a study for 60 days. 30 no weed, 30 days smoking 24/7. its funny and really informative. also shows that weed does nothing to you except you may gain a couple pounds. baha
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Classic movie for laughs : Reefer Madness (the original)


Informative movie : Grass (1999)
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kYLEMtnCRUZr
i can vouch for this, as far as his stories go. Hes been around the block

Werent you stationed in Hawaii!?
What stories? Yes I was stationed in HI. Contrary to popular belief, there's much better Doja here, than in HI.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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What stories? Yes I was stationed in HI. Contrary to popular belief, there's much better Doja here, than in HI.
Agreed. I had a cuz come back from HI and what he called 'chronic' I called 'D- product'.

Its too moist on the islands - the stuff never dries just right; not even close to how it flourishes in the Golden state.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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It seems this thread has wandered in a different direction. Back to the original topic, you really have to define hallucination in the context of this question.

Going by the loosest definition, I would say that pot can definitely cause some form of hallucination. Hell, the whole point of it is that it alters your mental state and perception of reality which on its own could be considered hallucination. On that note, however, consuming alcohol, being tired, exercising, or even just crossing your eyes or using your imagination can cause you to "hallucinate"... so its really meaningless.

Now in terms of this specific situation, the question is weather someone intoxicated with THC can/will see an actual object or person who is not there at all and actually believe it to be real enough to shoot at. This I believe to be total BS and impossible unless the person had other psychological problems to begin with.

First its extremely unlikely anyone on weed will ever see a hallucination to that degree. And even if someone for some reason did see a shadow or something and turned it into a real image in their mind, there is no way they would actually believe this image to be real enough to pull a gun on it and fire off a shot. Again... this is assuming no other mental issues or illnesses. In fact, this sort of argument should be grounds for further investigation for possible mental illness in the defendant that could explain his actions.

So can weed cause some form of "hallucination"? Definately just like anything and everything else can. But can it make you hallucinate an entire person out of thin air and make you believe its real enough to shoot at? No way in hell unless there are other underlying mental issues to begin with.

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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OK i am back so i can get on this again. Like i was stating earlier the whole controversy is whether paranoia is being confused as hallucinating. BUt you think of it, anytime you are doing something you can get in trouble for arent your paranoid.

Perfect examply. over on the 121 through napa i was passing people. it had passing areas so thats what i was doing. Upahead I thought I saw a chp and thought i was nailed. it was a black minicooper with a white top.

I was paranoid about getting pulled over, but would you say i hallucinated a cop being near me, or was paranoid every car would be a cop and thought it was things it wasnt.

As far as weed smokers killing weed smokers. Show me one case of that WHERE DRUG DEALING WASNT HAPPENING.

I never heard of anyone taking a few bong rips and and goign out and killing a ton of folks.

And as far as weed ebing legalized. Yes i believe it will happen very soon. They actually have been talking about it. They finally found a way to tax it so they are all over that. There will be shops to go to. Prices will be regulated but there will be a $5 tax for every 1/8th oz. And it will come with the same conditions of alcohol. I heard it on cbs radio the other day. I was very surprised.

On another note they have that Weed University where you can go and study all kinds of **** about cannabis.

Current tally 64-20.

We need to have a Subabong get together for hIghclub. But man what a bust that would be for the cops. Nailing you for gettign high and illegal mods.

DO they even have enough tow trucks to take all of those cars away?

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning
And even if someone for some reason did see a shadow or something and turned it into a real image in their mind, there is no way they would actually believe this image to be real enough to pull a gun on it and fire off a shot. Again... this is assuming no other mental issues or illnesses.
100% agreed.

Perception is most definitely compromised with THC consumption but judgment (moral and ethical) is not; alcohol impairs both typically though, so THC in combination with alcohol could cause what Bruce is talking about.

Would it result in a dismissal in court? I would hope not! That would leave everyone in the clear to murder left and right if they were f&%^'ed up enough.
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Now as far as the stuff being legal/illegal, I think there is absolutely no good reason for it to be illegal while alcohol is legal. Pot on its own is much less destructive to the individual using it as well as to the society around them. The illegality of it is actually what causes the negative influences on society.

My theory is that it has not been made legal as a recreational substance largely because there is no good way to determine if someone is or is not intoxicated at that particular point in time. This would make enforcement of DUI nearly impossible for pot. All they could say is that you have smoked within the past month or so.

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning
Now as far as the stuff being legal/illegal, I think there is absolutely no good reason for it to be illegal while alcohol is legal. Pot on its own is much less destructive to the individual using it as well as to the society around them. The illegality of it is actually what causes the negative influences on society.

My theory is that it has not been made legal as a recreational substance because there is no good way to determine if someone is or is not intoxicated at that particular point in time. This would make enforcement of DUI nearly impossible for pot.
Agreed 100%. Thast why if you are high you shouldnt be allowed behind the wheel of a car at all. Unlike alcohol where you can have a limit. And i will be the first to say it.

I drive better when I am high than when I am drunk. First of all I dont ever drive drunk. Back in my dumber days i did drive around a little inhibriated for marijuana. I am not syaing i could drive better than sober, that is just stupid for anyone to say. But i am saying if i was in a position thats i have to drive somewhere in an emergency, i would way rather be high than drunk.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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If you want the reason why Cannabis is illegal - look no farther than Anslinger, Hearst and DuPont in the 1920's.

Since then it has been grandfathered into law by politicians and lawmakers to stem a 'highly addictive and dangerous substance' from becoming uncontrolled.



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