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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Agreed 100%. Thast why if you are high you shouldnt be allowed behind the wheel of a car at all. Unlike alcohol where you can have a limit. And i will be the first to say it.

I drive better when I am high than when I am drunk. First of all I dont ever drive drunk. Back in my dumber days i did drive around a little inhibriated for marijuana. I am not syaing i could drive better than sober, that is just stupid for anyone to say. But i am saying if i was in a position thats i have to drive somewhere in an emergency, i would way rather be high than drunk.
I agree... driving drunk (even under the legal limit for a lot of people) is significantly more dangerous than driving while buzzed off weed.

But the problem with your first statement is how are you going to be able to tell if someone is high or not when they get pulled over. You can't rely on "your eyes are blood shot" or "you seem to be acting funny" because that's all subjective. And AFAIK, there is currently no method to determine if someone is actually intoxicated on THC at a particular moment in time.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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Ive never been able to hallucinate from smoking weed. Not even from eating a really strong weed brownie. I have had some real strong highes where im totally out of it but its still nothing like trippin out on shrooms. A real hallucinogenic.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Elsyd
but its still nothing like trippin out on shrooms. A real hallucinogenic.
Lordy - I had a friend that saw a Samurai in the corner of the room when he was rolling on psychedelic mushrooms - turned out to be a broom with a hat on it.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by R-Dub
Lordy - I had a friend that saw a Samurai in the corner of the room when he was rolling on psychedelic mushrooms - turned out to be a broom with a hat on it.


I have a friend who swears one of his house plants was dancing around the room when he was on mushrooms. This is the kind of stuff I think most people associate with the word "hallucination". But even with the stronger stuff with clear visual hallucinations, you're pretty much always aware that everything you're seeing is a figment of your imagination and not real in anyway. I have yet to meet anyone who has had a hallucination they actually perceived as part of reality (even with substances like shrooms, acid, e etc).
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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I was high in college for like two years straight. Literally. Wake and bake. Smoke until I went to sleep.

We even TRIED to OD on weed because we read somewhere that it was possible... theoretically.

We made "magic" tea and "magic" brownies and taped the door shut hot-boxing ourselves in a crawlspace under the stairs with a tiny TV and a nintendo. Didn't work.

Not once did us or anyone we knew hallucinate while on just weed.

Mushrooms were a different story. Never again.

Oh and as far as weed not affecting your intelligence... yeah, no. I was ****ing dumb as **** when I was smoking. Stopped smoking like over 10 years ago and noticed a HUGE difference pretty soon after I stopped.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning


I have a friend who swears one of his house plants was dancing around the room when he was on mushrooms. This is the kind of stuff I think most people associate with the word "hallucination". But even with the stronger stuff with clear visual hallucinations, you're pretty much always aware that everything you're seeing is a figment of your imagination and not real in anyway. I have yet to meet anyone who has had a hallucination they actually perceived as part of reality (even with substances like shrooms, acid, e etc).
Yeah, the one time I tried shrooms, I pretty sure I did too much. I was sitting there for like 30 minutes waiting for it to kick in. Then all of a sudden, out of the corner of my eye, one of the panels on the front door twisted and then snapped back. I looked over and all the panels started twisting and then snapping back.

We were playing nintendo (again) and I had to concentrate on the game because every time I looked away from the TV EVERYTHING else in the room was doing something weird.

It lasted for ****ing EVER. I was tripping for most of the day. We had to smoke weed to come down off the shrooms.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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Just for the record, I have two good friends who both say that they started seeing little things here and there, but when they'd focus on them they'd be gone.

I'd classify that as a hallucination no matter how small it is.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by brucelee
Just for the record, I have two good friends who both say that they started seeing little things here and there, but when they'd focus on them they'd be gone.

I'd classify that as a hallucination no matter how small it is.
See, the problem is, if I did have something tiny like that happen, I would have probably forgotten by the time I lit the next bowl.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning


I have a friend who swears one of his house plants was dancing around the room when he was on mushrooms. This is the kind of stuff I think most people associate with the word "hallucination". But even with the stronger stuff with clear visual hallucinations, you're pretty much always aware that everything you're seeing is a figment of your imagination and not real in anyway. I have yet to meet anyone who has had a hallucination they actually perceived as part of reality (even with substances like shrooms, acid, e etc).
Maybe not with shrooms, but with DXM, if you take too much you honestly become paranoid that the "Soviets" are invading, DXM has 4 plateaus, the first is mild, second is just like being crunk, 3rd you start seeing stuff everywhere, 4th (as hard as it is to achieve the 4th) you are so out of your mind that you cant grasp reality.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning
It seems this thread has wandered in a different direction. Back to the original topic, you really have to define hallucination in the context of this question.

Going by the loosest definition, I would say that pot can definitely cause some form of hallucination. Hell, the whole point of it is that it alters your mental state and perception of reality which on its own could be considered hallucination. On that note, however, consuming alcohol, being tired, exercising, or even just crossing your eyes or using your imagination can cause you to "hallucinate"... so its really meaningless.

Now in terms of this specific situation, the question is weather someone intoxicated with THC can/will see an actual object or person who is not there at all and actually believe it to be real enough to shoot at. This I believe to be total BS and impossible unless the person had other psychological problems to begin with.

First its extremely unlikely anyone on weed will ever see a hallucination to that degree. And even if someone for some reason did see a shadow or something and turned it into a real image in their mind, there is no way they would actually believe this image to be real enough to pull a gun on it and fire off a shot. Again... this is assuming no other mental issues or illnesses. In fact, this sort of argument should be grounds for further investigation for possible mental illness in the defendant that could explain his actions.

So can weed cause some form of "hallucination"? Definately just like anything and everything else can. But can it make you hallucinate an entire person out of thin air and make you believe its real enough to shoot at? No way in hell unless there are other underlying mental issues to begin with.

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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