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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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We are clearly talking about a different context of "hallucination" with pot than with other heavier drugs. Yes, you can probably TECHNICALLY consider some of the things experienced by nOOb potheads to be "hallucination". NO, it does not qualify as the same type of "hallucination" that is commonly associated with heavier drug use, or any realiztic use of the term "hallucination".

Flatline: Ninja edit, turns out you are Law Enforcement. Makes sense At any rate, your knowledge is purely EXTERNAL. By this I mean that it is gathered by observation, reading, whatever...anything but experiencing it for yourself.

However, for you to come in and claim that you know more about the effects than people with INTERNAL knowledge and actual experience is absurd. It is like the stereotypical drug counselor trying to help people quit an addiction. They have no basis for comparision, and no real idea what that person is going through physically or mentally.

Don't get me started on archaic Prohibition-Era laws and "drug classifications" that do not mean a *******ed thing in the real world.

If you want to compare scientific research and documented fact, then lets discuss alcohol related deaths. Not just deaths, the sheer number of people every year who **** up their lives and the lives of other due to a substance that is LEGAL.

In the grand scheme of things, you yourself admit to having been drunk enough for "Ugly chicks to look hot." Statistically, who is the bigger danger to society? Drunks who break ****, crash vehicles, kill people, get in fights, ruin lives, and generally act with total disregard for everyone but themselves....or Potheads who get high and then lazy, stay at home, eat, watch TV, play video games, and then go to sleep?

It may scare some people to realize that our entire country is high If the dirka-dirkas, China and Russia knew, they would invade in a heartbeat!! They just better succeed before everyone sobers up!!!

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
I keep telling myself that when I find that I have a difficult time constructing a sentence. I can't help to think that some of the studies may be wrong.
While under the influence of THC - there are losses in the area of reflexes, color distinction, coordination, spacial recognition and manipulation but little to no effect on verbal and mathematical parts of the brain.

10 hours after consumption of THC, the effects have generally ceased to effect mental ability.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Screw it, I'm leaving work early today. I gotta do my part to keep flatline employed. As long as I'm around "your" going to have a job. Cheers mate. Bubble, bubble, bubble....

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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naw i dont mess around with pot heads, i think it should be legal =)
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by aboothman
We are clearly talking about a different context of "hallucination" with pot than with other heavier drugs. Yes, you can probably TECHNICALLY consider some of the things experienced by nOOb potheads to be "hallucination". NO, it does not qualify as the same type of "hallucination" that is commonly associated with heavier drug use, or any realiztic use of the term "hallucination".

Flatline: Ninja edit, turns out you are Law Enforcement. Makes sense At any rate, your knowledge is purely EXTERNAL. By this I mean that it is gathered by observation, reading, whatever...anything but experiencing it for yourself.

However, for you to come in and claim that you know more about the effects than people with INTERNAL knowledge and actual experience is absurd. It is like the stereotypical drug counselor trying to help people quit an addiction. They have no basis for comparision, and no real idea what that person is going through physically or mentally.

Don't get me started on archaic Prohibition-Era laws and "drug classifications" that do not mean a *******ed thing in the real world.

If you want to compare scientific research and documented fact, then lets discuss alcohol related deaths. Not just deaths, the sheer number of people every year who **** up their lives and the lives of other due to a substance that is LEGAL.

In the grand scheme of things, you yourself admit to having been drunk enough for "Ugly chicks to look hot." Statistically, who is the bigger danger to society? Drunks who break ****, crash vehicles, kill people, get in fights, ruin lives, and generally act with total disregard for everyone but themselves....or Potheads who get high and then lazy, stay at home, eat, watch TV, play video games, and then go to sleep?

It may scare some people to realize that our entire country is high If the dirka-dirkas, China and Russia knew, they would invade in a heartbeat!! They just better succeed before everyone sobers up!!!
Just before anyone makes the argument, nobody will deny ppl who sell the stuff can be dangerous, as can any illegal substance...................but most users aren't big sellers that carry guns and shoot people. It's actually very rare for it to be MJ related, but it does happen when the crazy rich gangster dealers do something bad. But thats not the majority of the ppl.......

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"While under the influence of THC - there are losses in the area of reflexes, color distinction, coordination, spacial recognition and manipulation but little to no effect on verbal and mathematical parts of the brain.

10 hours after consumption of THC, the effects have generally ceased to effect mental ability."

Dude are you sure? My math skills sometimes just go out the window. I thought the math was the 1 thing that it really did affect.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by R-Dub
While under the influence of THC - there are losses in the area of reflexes, color distinction, coordination, spacial recognition and manipulation but little to no effect on verbal and mathematical parts of the brain.

10 hours after consumption of THC, the effects have generally ceased to effect mental ability.
Here we go. I smoke my fair share of weed, and I'm telling you, speech is affected.
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Want to add something, however.

There IS a big difference in the Pot world between your friendly hippy and the scumbag *******s who bring crime and guns to the situation.

I live in Rural Northern CA, AKA Real NorCal or the Emerald Triangle. There is, and has been a big problem up here for the last 15+ years with gun toting organized crime scumbags. I fully support the busting and shooting of these "people" since they are making the place where I live, recreate, and work dangerous for everyone.

AND, they are only sucking the life out of our local economy and making it harder and harder for the local folks who just want to smoke their weed.

I know this applies to more than my area, but it is the example that I know and live around. I am sure it is worse in the city, where weed sales is linked to tweak, junk and all that other ****. A drug dealer is a drug dealer, and should be dealt with accordingly

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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your right slow 04 wrx, its not the users that kill.

its dealers between dealers that kill. and its either for turf or money. or something else all together :shrugs:
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Weed should be legalized period.

it would take a TON of crime off the streeets.

and make a whole lot of people happy =)
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This a great thread BTW. Something we have in common beside cars. I(get high)-club.com
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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Funny thing is that I don't even smoke anymore, but I understand and I am sympathetic to the cause.
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
Here we go. I smoke my fair share of weed, and I'm telling you, speech is affected.
That's why I said 'little to none'. Everyone's body is different, everyones tolerance is different and every strand of Cannabis is different.

That is why there has never been 'solid, conclusive' evidence in support of or in argument of Cannabis.

So while laboratory tests have shown in rats, monkeys and humans that the area of brain responsible for speech shows no change under fMRI, MRI, CAT or EKG - doesn't mean you are or are not effected by it.

Slow04 - same thing.



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