Customer "Project 2009 Sleeper" 506whp Stock Location Turbo
02-13-2012, 06:26 PM
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Agreed!
Pretty sweet for stock location turbo NOT running e85 to get these kind of gains. Shoot even more impressive is look at the CA91 numbers its putting down.
On CA91 it did:
15psi- 373whp <-- this is wastegate pressure (thats roughly 150whp over what stock does at same psi on same fuel)
18psi- 402whp
20psi- 412whp
-Noah
Pretty sweet for stock location turbo NOT running e85 to get these kind of gains. Shoot even more impressive is look at the CA91 numbers its putting down.
On CA91 it did:
15psi- 373whp <-- this is wastegate pressure (thats roughly 150whp over what stock does at same psi on same fuel)
18psi- 402whp
20psi- 412whp
-Noah
Click the link in the first post to see the build information.
02-13-2012, 06:58 PM
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Looking through COBB's dyno database for Surgeline Tuning, it shows stock to be about 233whp on 92 Octane. 92 vs. 91 is about the same, minus a few % for 91, call it 225whp ish
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02-13-2012, 08:44 PM
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Agreed!
Pretty sweet for stock location turbo NOT running e85 to get these kind of gains. Shoot even more impressive is look at the CA91 numbers its putting down.
On CA91 it did:
15psi- 373whp <-- this is wastegate pressure (thats roughly 150whp over what stock does at same psi on same fuel)
18psi- 402whp
20psi- 412whp
-Noah
Pretty sweet for stock location turbo NOT running e85 to get these kind of gains. Shoot even more impressive is look at the CA91 numbers its putting down.
On CA91 it did:
15psi- 373whp <-- this is wastegate pressure (thats roughly 150whp over what stock does at same psi on same fuel)
18psi- 402whp
20psi- 412whp
-Noah
02-14-2012, 09:33 AM
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That 233whp on 92 Octane was on a 2008 STi, found another 2009 STi at 243whp for all stock as well and again on 92 octane (according to there dyno database on COBB's site)
-Noah
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02-14-2012, 12:32 PM
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It needs more airflow to keep revving out, stock location turbos can only flow so much and at this higher pressure its at its limitations for the most part. A Cossie manifold would help but its not worth affecting the spool up for what it would gain up top.
195whp? damn I think you take the cake for lowest reading dyno now...ha ha!
-Noah
195whp? damn I think you take the cake for lowest reading dyno now...ha ha!
-Noah
02-14-2012, 01:57 PM
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It needs more airflow to keep revving out, stock location turbos can only flow so much and at this higher pressure its at its limitations for the most part. A Cossie manifold would help but its not worth affecting the spool up for what it would gain up top.
195whp? damn I think you take the cake for lowest reading dyno now...ha ha!
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195whp? damn I think you take the cake for lowest reading dyno now...ha ha!
-Noah
The 08+ STI's just make less power stock. 04-07 STI's do 215-225whp here but I haven't seen a single 08+ break 205whp stock. Funny thing is that 09+ WRX's do about 215-225whp stock!
As far as airflow up top, I'm kind of surprised to hear that. Power isn't dropping off at all and not even really leveling out at 7k on those graphs. That means that the turbo still has some breathing room and could likely carry the power out to at least 7500RPM assuming the head/cam package can support the flow... which it looks like it can.
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02-14-2012, 02:02 PM
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The 08+ STI's just make less power stock. 04-07 STI's do 215-225whp here but I haven't seen a single 08+ break 205whp stock. Funny thing is that 09+ WRX's do about 215-225whp stock!
As far as airflow up top, I'm kind of surprised to hear that. Power isn't dropping off at all and not even really leveling out at 7k on those graphs. That means that the turbo still has some breathing room and could likely carry the power out to at least 7500RPM assuming the head/cam package can support the flow... which it looks like it can.
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As far as airflow up top, I'm kind of surprised to hear that. Power isn't dropping off at all and not even really leveling out at 7k on those graphs. That means that the turbo still has some breathing room and could likely carry the power out to at least 7500RPM assuming the head/cam package can support the flow... which it looks like it can.
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No need to rev higher and stress it anymore than it is, as its only going to have marginal gains (if any from its current setup). Stock locations have a choking point and this is darn near it on its given setup.
-Noah
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02-14-2012, 02:29 PM
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COBB always tells us how killer our head package is so I know its not that, these are also the exact same heads used on our own race car and we go to 8500-8700 RPMS no issues (but not same scenario but they flow just fine none the less). I know the Injectors are starting to max out, so I'm sure its an additional limiting factor for where its at.
No need to rev higher and stress it anymore than it is, as its only going to have marginal gains (if any from its current setup). Stock locations have a choking point and this is darn near it on its given setup.
-Noah
No need to rev higher and stress it anymore than it is, as its only going to have marginal gains (if any from its current setup). Stock locations have a choking point and this is darn near it on its given setup.
-Noah
Thanks
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02-14-2012, 03:46 PM
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Amazing results on one of our customers big builds we've done, this car we have deemed "Project 2009 Sleeper". The final tune was done today using COBB Tuning's Speed Density and these results are still using a stock location turbo....check it out!
CA91 18/20psi Graph
CA91 Octane Results:
18psi- 402whp / 355wtg
20psi- 412whp / 370wtq
C23 Race Fuel 20/23/26psi Graph
C23 Race Fuel Results:
20psi- 433whp / 384wtq
23psi- 472whp / 421wtq
26psi- 506whp / 447wtq
CA91 vs. C23 Graph
CA91 vs. C23 Results:
20psi- 412whp / 370wtq
26psi- 506whp / 447wtq
Complete build and pics of this car: Project 2009 Sleeper | LIC Motorsports
Can also see more info on our FB page: Customer- Blake | Facebook
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02-14-2012, 04:11 PM
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He advised me today that he took his two buddies one who owns a GT-R and the other has a CTS-V....said they were impressed and scared all at the same time. LOL.
The nice thing about this particular setup is you still have the fairly lightweight vehicle that a Subaru is, compared to other "higher end" makes, this car carries just about as much power and at min 600-800 lbs less than the other two bada** cars listed.
All that matters to me is that the customer is happy and he likes what he paid for and ultimately got what he wanted.
Thanks for the kind words on the build!
-Noah