Originally Posted by mexicanpizza

Zoeb: Since people with much bigger than a VF34 don't break their tranny, I'm going to go ahead and say that your tranny failure was directly attributable to the dip**** behind the wheel, and not your gobs of power.

Roo: You're plain wrong buddy. Your car, your usage of the accessport, or SOMETHING, was wrong. Here's my Accessport Stage 2 graph from about a year ago (stock WRX = circa 175-180 I think):



Here's the graph of another guy I know (from nabisco, "blackie") making 272 with the accessport and VF34. The before graph is his AP stage 2. Same car.

Originally Posted by Roo

1. I've just posted (below) stock and the Cobb "Stage 2" readings. They are for all intents and purposes the same. Closed loop fueling until ~4000 rpm. Nothing different there...oh wait, I see about a 50 rpm difference...

2. I've posted the BOOST chart that shows a whopping <2 psi increase in boost levels. In the top end, it peters out to less than stock levels. Nowhere near the target boost levels claimed by certain tuners.

3. Let's see them. Produce some dyno results (not from the website) from others, or better yet, let's see what your vehicle produces on the dyno with the stock map flash, then your stage (x) map. The vehicle in question has a TurboXS downpipe, high flow cat, and a Bosal exhaust (3" all the way). It also (when tested on the dyno) had a K&N filter in the stock airbox. That satisfies Cobb's published requirements for a stage 2 setup. Look at the curve, toward the top end of the spectrum. Stock makes more PEAK WHP.

4. I won't name names, but I described the ONLY Cobb authorized dealer in the Northern California area (specifically north of the Golden Gate bridge). The one that I think posted the "Phantom Tuner" post.

I'm sure that Shiv knows his stuff.



Got BOOST??



As Initial D would say: GET ME POWER!!

Sorry, had to put that in...

Mud anyone??

I was told by a certain person (at Cobb) that mine MIGHT be one of the FEW Subaru vehicles that "just won't accept tuning". What's that about? I know that vehicle is special, but come on, what makes it THAT DIFFERENT??

Originally Posted by Roo

1. I've just posted (below) stock and the Cobb "Stage 2" readings. They are for all intents and purposes the same. Closed loop fueling until ~4000 rpm. Nothing different there...oh wait, I see about a 50 rpm difference...

2. I've posted the BOOST chart that shows a whopping <2 psi increase in boost levels. In the top end, it peters out to less than stock levels. Nowhere near the target boost levels claimed by certain tuners.

3. Let's see them. Produce some dyno results (not from the website) from others, or better yet, let's see what your vehicle produces on the dyno with the stock map flash, then your stage (x) map. The vehicle in question has a TurboXS downpipe, high flow cat, and a Bosal exhaust (3" all the way). It also (when tested on the dyno) had a K&N filter in the stock airbox. That satisfies Cobb's published requirements for a stage 2 setup. Look at the curve, toward the top end of the spectrum. Stock makes more PEAK WHP.

4. I won't name names, but I described the ONLY Cobb authorized dealer in the Northern California area (specifically north of the Golden Gate bridge). The one that I think posted the "Phantom Tuner" post.

I'm sure that Shiv knows his stuff.



Got BOOST??



As Initial D would say: GET ME POWER!!

Sorry, had to put that in...

Mud anyone??

I was told by a certain person (at Cobb) that mine MIGHT be one of the FEW Subaru vehicles that "just won't accept tuning". What's that about? I know that vehicle is special, but come on, what makes it THAT DIFFERENT??

Originally Posted by wrx10404

Let me start by saying FKCU YOU(I did not spell it right, 1 because it would have been bleeped and 2 i think you get my meaning.)

Originally Posted by Imprezer

Hey there. Take a chill pill, my friendo. We don't talk to each other like this here. And, the is built-in censorship here for a reason. For you to misspell the words that would have been censored is like spitting in my face. Is that what you are trying to do? Because if you do, I will show you where the door is reaaaaaaaaaaaaly fast. Maybe thats how you talk to your Forester buddies on your other board, but here, we don't do that.

Originally Posted by Imprezer

There is absolutely no proof of what causes stock 5MT's to fail. I know it is realted to case flex, but I have seen:

Uber HP WRX's not breaking trannys
Uber HP WRX's breaking trannys
Uber idiot drivers not breaking trannys
Uber idiot drivers breaking trannys
Stock WRX's with broken trannys

And, different combinations of the above. Your tranny, if still alive, will break sooner or later. And, you'll not not what happened when it does.

I went through 3.

First broke under acceleration
Second broke on the freeway in 5th
Third broke on the dyno cool down

Originally Posted by Imprezer

There is absolutely no proof of what causes stock 5MT's to fail. I know it is realted to case flex, but I have seen:

Uber HP WRX's not breaking trannys
Uber HP WRX's breaking trannys
Uber idiot drivers not breaking trannys
Uber idiot drivers breaking trannys
Stock WRX's with broken trannys

And, different combinations of the above. Your tranny, if still alive, will break sooner or later. And, you'll not not what happened when it does.

I went through 3.

First broke under acceleration
Second broke on the freeway in 5th
Third broke on the dyno cool down

Originally Posted by brucelee

But can your cars jump? Yeah, didn't think so!