I thought you filled up at night with the old hose and gas can??

 

hmmm ive been wondering why i have to fill up more frequently lately

 

hahaha That's so Sacramento

 

got this promotion from buca di beppo today. i had to rotate the coupon in order to make it uploadable.

 

Nearly all of my driving has been discretionary- what one might call "recreational"- I only live a mile from work and I really should be riding my bike more anyway.

The whole notion that this is a matter of supply and demand is total BS, the oil companies are the ones who are bidding the futures up so high, how else can they be reporting the record profits they have all turned in these last few quarters.

A one-day boycott I agree is a pretty weak statement and will certainly be all but ignored, but a longer term boycott will at least let some of us spend our discretionary income on other things.

Besides it is just about to the point where alcohol will become a viable alternative, some places are selling bulk methanol at $130/barrel, which is less than $3/gal.

 

boycotting gas doesnt hurt the oil/gas companies at all
if you wanted to hurt the oil/gas companies.. youd have to boycott them for months.

All the gas companies purchase the gas from the refiner or the oil from the dealer 6 months in advance
so the gas that you buy today at the gas station was purchased 6 months ago while it was still in the ground. One reason everytime the price goes up after a new story is completely bogus.

also.. gas prices are now up more becuase most of the gas refineries in this country were in the area now formerly known as louisiana. (new orleans and the like).. Now many of those are underwater and will be for probably at least a few weeks.

Of course this is just a gateway and i wouldnt expect gas price to come down after the refineries are salvaged.

You will hurt the local gas station.. which may be forced to close.. but you will do very little to the big gas company.

 

gas is currently about $70 a barrel.. so unles sthe methanol barrels are much bigger, id say gas is still cheaper.

T-

 

But you yourself in your last post pointed out that we won't be seeing the effects of the current commodity pricing for another 6 months- "crude futures" are what's trading today at about $70/barrel, and crude isn't gasoline.

Bulk methanol on the other hand, once I get my accessport tuned for it- would be ready to pump out of the barrel.

I'm kidding of course, but if things continue the direction they are going, it might become feasible

 

the sad thing is- the refiner in most cases IS the "gas company", so all this "selling" and "buying" between their various divisions is just increasing the profits to the shareholders at the expense of the consumer.

 

haha i wish..
unfortunately.. we are paying now for gas at the price that the station wont have to buy for another 6 months and in 6 months well be paying the same amount of more.. probably even if the price of oil goes down or we are able to refine more.

our prezzzzidont has release a few barrels form the national reserve.. but its just symbolic as those barrels are crude and we cant refine it anyway. its just to keep the investors at ease .

most stations are chains owned by individuals. so the refiner/gas provider stillsells the gas to the station. but the important detail is that the refiner has to get the gas from the oil cartels. Rightnow we could still get asmuch gas as we had been gettin gbefore the hurricane.. we just cant refine it since most of the refineries were in the ravaged part of the country.

oh well.. we are all farked.
time to convert your wrx's to hybrid

 

waaaah... just skip starbucks in the morning and you won't even feel the price increase.

 

I spent the last 4 years averaging 40,000 miles a year, figuring that I get about 20 mpg, I was burning about 2000 gallons of gas per year, it takes a lot of Starbucks to offset a dollar increase per gallon when you log those kinds of miles...

 

your driving is definitely not the typical situation... your average commuter doesn't burn even close to that much gas. i go about 15,000 miles per year and get about 16mpg. so about 940 gallons burned. if the price of gas were to go up $1 in a year, my starbucks analogy would hold true. (a $3 cup of crap every morning)

i live in sac, gas today has just broken the $3.00 mark for 91 octane. it's been a long long time since it was only $2.00 a gallon.

 

Here in berkeley we are seeing premium at 3.419, on one trip I remember- back in March of '03 I resolved that I wouldn't stop at stations charging more than 2.45 for premium, so in the last couple of years I think an increase of a dollar per gallon is about what we're faced with.

And I don't think the increase is even close to ending either, we will see $4 before the end of this month.

Still it's cheaper than the $1.24CDN/litre I paid in Tuktoyuktuk last February

 

:rotfl: i was in victoria last summer and thought to myself "damn gas is cheap up here, only $.99 canadian... aww crap, that's per litre"