bobcats arent spoted, so its some other large ferrel cat

 

one of these maybe? http://www.indiantiger.org/wild-cats...otted-cat.html

 

I would rather pay more and buy eggs and chicken than kill a beautiful animal like this....seems a bit cruel to snuff it out over a few chickens (chickens are $1.50 at the local supermarket after all...)

 

+1. Ima cat lover :P. So *ehem* anyway back to tuner talk -.-

 

I say we take this shoot out to the track.

 

That's a great idea! Just gotta make sure the engine, turbo, mods, suspension, tires and everything are identical on the cars and have everyone drive each car 3x. Then average all the times and yeah, it's still a bad idea.

 

Uh oh the animal rights activists are here! /thread

 

So if you like an animal you are an activist? Or you just can't think of a good e-putdown for someone who doesn't think killing anything alive is "hella cool."

 

Please, give me a break.

The topic of the thread is about the best tuner in the bay right?

Would it not make sense for the best tuner to have tuned the fastest car then?

Speed ain't cheap..and if you have a fast car and don't know how to drive it then go see the guys a Jim Russel school or get out on a Wed. night drahg at Sears or Sacramento.

The funny thing is that many of the people nut swinging here have lighty modded cars...and don't have an idea of what a real tuner does for a living.

Trust me, when i say you don't really know what a tuners made of until he builds a monster car from start to finish.

Anybody can just throw a few parts together and flash a car and make a few minor changes to somebody elses base maps.

A true tuner builds race cars not 200whp daily drivers ..sorry thats the truth, and i may get flamed for saying this, as it stands many tuners provide services to normal folk to pay the basic bills.

 

Are you serious? The best car in the world won't do squat if it can't be driven. Some people 'just don't get it' and some people have that feel of the car and know when to shift regardless of any training and sometimes even experience.

A TRUE TUNER can tune a race car, a completely custom job with undiscovered territory like custom manifolds, etc or tune a daily driver for optimum longevity. What it sounds like you are saying is most of us 'nut swingers' aren't cool enough to comment on this subject, and that, is BS.

 

lol, wtf are you talking about. Im not trying to e-putdown anyone. Pretty things die. Especially pretty things that kill your chickens.

 

or more precisely, pretty things are shot

 

Did you see what you posted back there? Take a look.

 

Wow guys, thanks for all the feedback. The tuner stories and experiences are really helping me to make up my mind. I'll keep reading more of your input but right now it appears that it is between Mike and Ed with a slight favor to Mike because he is right up the street from me and Ed is quite a drive. I still need to give them both a call and ask a bunch of questions, though, because I think this is a very good recommendation.

One interesting "tuner shootout" idea would be to have both tuners tune a single car on a dyno and see who can get the best results (whatever that means). I'm really not recommending this as a remote possibility because I'm sure these guys have more to do with their lives than entertain us with a meaningless competition. Still, it is fun to think about...

Oh yeah, and as odd as it sounds, I have even enjoyed the entertaining banter about the dead cat-thing and dog with the "Oh ****, what have I done" look on his face picture.

 

I don't like that idea because I pay a tuner to dial-in a safety net and not run my engine on the ragged edge of detonation. In a one-on-one tuning shootout, if dyno numbers are the primary goal, then the tuner might be more aggressive with things like ignition timing and fuel compared to what they might consider to be a safe customer tune for dependability. Do you really want an extra 7 or 8 horsepower if the ring lands fail after two 1/4-mile passes down the drag strip? If a tuner ever tells me that he tunes for max output above all else, I would find another tuner.

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