Yes. Very good point. People will talk trash for fun in public, but few people give out the real info in public because most people in their right minds don't want to make enemies.

Go to meets, get to know shop owners, kick it with people if you want the dirty details. Otherwise, just throw down your money and ge tuned and be done with it.

 

::Two Thumbs Up:: for Mike, Gruppe-S Tunning.

I haven't dealt with Ed, but Mike is very fair and backs up what he says. I have been dealing with Mike since I got my WRX, over 3 years, and he is excellent. Zero complaints only accolades.

 

Mike and I have already discussed this a while back. I really don't need to back up the credibility because it's really just between me and Mike, and since he knows everything, there's no need to elaborate more on this. You can choose to believe that there's a car Mike deemed untuneable, or you can just call me another flamer it's really up to you.

Also, does a tune really cause an engine to burn oil, or is it that there's something wrong with the engine in general?

 

most likely his friends car had something wrong with it before the tune to be smoking as much as he described.

back when my car was near stock shiv did an awesome job tuning my car. then i moved on to a pretty modded setup with a vf30 and again the tune was awesome, lots of power and even more than i've seen for other vf30's. after that i went to a rotated turbo setup with the same MAF based management and the results weren't that great, the MAF was the limiting factor though since it was right in front of the turbo and not the tuners.

so +1 for shiv still. i've also been in a few cars that mike has tuned and they all run really well. haven't been in a car tuned by ed but from everything people have said he seems like a good choice aswell.

 

I am not getting into the tuner battle. Oh what a mindfield I walked into. Peas.

 

If I had no clue about tuning and came across this thread, I, 100% without a doubt know where I would take it.





















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