Outback and Forester sales to Lesbians is really the bread and butter for Subaru of America. Somehow the 2008 redo of the Impreza really jump started the sales there too.

People like 'em now, and yeah, I can see how the turbo cars are smaller in sales numbers, especially with so many other performance sedans/hatches coming out in the market, like the Focus ST.

 

I did, and it's faster than an STI stock.

That car has also already been thru an engine too.

 

I don't think that was ever NOT the case. Their bread and butter has always been the outback and forester platform. The redesign of the forester absolutely boosted Subaru to a house hold name. An option for more than just people that live in the snow. They're selling like crazy and that platform is the staple.

The redesign of the impreza and the split of the impreza/wrx platform signal to me that they're going to keep building on that success.


But the BRZ was a big success. The STI and the WRX still sell and will continue to do so IF... IF they continue to improve it. I see this split as a good thing. Hopefully it will mean that the WRX/STI are truly seen as a different platform and will get built that way. Forged internals and a 6spd on both is a huge need.

I think in the end it could be a good thing. Less parts will be pushed through both platforms... less crap meant for the NA motors will filter on to the turbo cars. But that's probably just me hoping.

There's a reason that I have a WRX with 236k on it and plan on putting a new motor in it instead of buying a new one.

Hell... the wife's forester has it's own issues. First model year issues. We're looking to get out of it and either in to a new one... or an 08.



Subaru has a big decision to make. Right now they're trying to get by with what they have. Eventually that's not going to work anymore and they'll have to actually commit to the platform. We'll see if they're willing.

 

Yeah. I said that before this model got released. They've gotten away with it for WAY too long. There is NO reason the STI shouldn't be somewhere between 340-375hp. The only reason they're not is so they can cheap out on internals.

Eventually they'll have to kill the platform or spend some money on it. I don't get it. You can get a used STI and build it up for what you'd spend on a new one and end up with a way cooler car for the same money.

And your "increase" of 2% is based off the manufacturer claims. Have you put 2 of them on the dyno bone stock? I'd be curious. I would not be surprised if it actually put down LESS on this model than it did on say... the 2005 model.

 

Lol @ Overbear expecting would be owners to search the internet for all the blown stock motors before purchasing a car. Sorry that's not how its supposed to work and SoA should be replacing his motor under warranty.

Your tune would be different if you got the dud motor out of the dealership. Infact I'm pretty certain you would be talking about taking up arms against the dealership if it was to happen to you.

 

The issue with getting warranty work is OP's car was not running the stock tune when this happened. It's going to be an uphill battle.

 

I have done a bunch of both but honestly the cars stock for stock are all over the map kinda like playing darts drunk!

 

Yea but OP put it back to stock before taking it in. If they won't warranty it because the bolts have been opened and then retightened, lawyer up.

 

Figured.



Didn't know you had a dart board in the shop.

 

He can do that, but the burden of proof is on him. That's still an uphill battle. It doesn't change the fact that this happened when his car wasn't stock, though.
He is British.

 

He said dart board not Cricket field

 

The cricket field is somewhere else.

 

Nah it's here, it's between the crumpet maker and the spotted dick machine!

 

Riiiight, because the STi and GTR are at the same price point.

 

The majority of mechanics I've talked to say that it's almost certain something was wrong with the motor from the factory, just doesn't make sense that a nearly stock motor would fail especially the way I drive my car. If I had flogged the car on the track or treated it like a rented mule then I could see the possibility of failure but fact is I hadn't put the car through its paces and the motor had blown on the freeway at 65 mph.