yeah Im totally safe and smart, and hate bikers or anyone with attitude, i can only imagine ElCamino/Stanford at commute hour. I see bikes cross all the time and i have to wait for them despite my green light...lucky i didnt launch right into them.

Yeah Elcamino there is NO getting around waiting for the light, unless you ride to the middle of the block and cross, which i do sometimes.

I guess i cant disagree with Wimpreza since i didnt see his situation thru my eyes

 

I guess I might fall under the Yuppie category... I ride my bike a lot up here at Chico and a lot of other people ride their bikes... the streets are just flooded with bikes and a few cars during passing periods... and the bikes will still stop at red lights... but when you get closer to campus the cars are gridlocked and the bikes are just going everywhere without stopping...

 

obviously we will have to stop if bikes ever took over, but until then we arrrrr piratess on bikes yarrrrrrrrr

 

i DON't ride bicycle, but i ride motocycle. are you telling me that i don't have to stop for stop signs? i can run the light when there are no cars???

if you don't wait for stop lights, and you don't stop at stop signs. you are WRONG. it does not matter whether you in a car or bike.

kyle you are proudly telling me that you run lights all the time when there are no cars. that is not right. PERIOD.

i come home at 2 or 3 in the morning DRIVING. there is stop sign and red lights. I STOP at lights and signs ALL the time.

it just sound stupid when you say when its "safe" then you can just go for it.

 

so when i'm riding home from a party at 2am with no cars around, you want me to stop at a stop sign? youre right, that isn't safe to blow right thru it when everyones asleep

you really are just jealous that you have to stop and i don't, which is pathetic.

and yeah you can run the light and stop sign on a motorcycle, i do it quite often and could give a F about it, why do you care if i get a ticket or not?

this is a free F'n country, you cant tell me what i can and cant do



so this is you with your friends at 2 am...

driving along about to stop at a stop sign as a bike flies past you...

"OMG did you see that!? That ******* biker just blew thru the stop sign! He is not allowed to do that! no way, nuh uh not on my watch. Im going to go tell him..."

"Excuse me Mr. Biker, I want you to know you are supposed to stop at stop signs, I'm not allowed to blow through them so you shouldn't be able to either, and i just thought you should know ."

"Uhh, but it's 2am...and the only thing I had to watch out for was your car stopping at the stop sign...you only stopped because you didn't want to get a ticket...you would've rolled right through it if you knew for a fact that there were no cops around"



You dont stop to be safe in a car, you stop because you don't want to get a ticket. When i drive up to a stop sign in my car, i look for people and pets, that's all, i could give a F if my wheels come to a complete stop or not.





Youre the reason America has such a F'd up image because you thrive on the idea "Well if I can't do it, neither should he or she!"

 

^^
as you say you do what you like, but what im saying is that it is wrong. correct? and that is all im saying. it is wrong.

you do that at night. but these bikers doing it at 9 in the morning. going thru intersections that is full of cars.

i was waiting for the left turn signal lights. and the it was green if you go straight. so the bike went straight half way and turned left! i think that is doing too much.

 

the law says no, but i say yes. Nobody is holding you back from anything you do in life.

you are WRONG when you speed. and dont tell me you don't speed. You own a Rally Car and Wankel Engine! You love to speed just like me, but i dont go around reciting the law to people like some F'n nerd.

why do you care what i do when nobody is around? LOL? I've never seen so many points made, which have no content whatsoever.

sounds like you are the owner of a bicycle brake pad company and you want me to wear thru my pads to put more money in your pocket lol. Thats the only reason i could see someone *****ing about something so minuscule.



As you should if you want to avoid getting a ticket.





why does that sound stupid? is an empty street at 2am not safe to you?

yeah im totally gonna stop at a stoplight in a shady neighborhood and wait for 30 seconds and wait to get mugged.

1/2 the reason to ride as fast as you can is to escape the rough areas in town.

I'd like to see you ride through East Palo Alto at 2am...we'll see how long you stick around at the limit line. A white boy like myself would be mugged and beatdown like no other.

I have nothing against you as a person, but you are acting so **** about such a minute subject.

 

i totally hear you on that, but you were going off on the 2am subject, not the 9am commute traffic thing.

im sorry but i dont need people telling me whats right and whats wrong. I know its wrong, i know a lot of things in life are wrong. We drive illegally for fun. etc

peace

 

i think it is more of an argument of energy... when you are in a car or on a motorcycle you can stop and go and you are still just sitting there... on a bicycle, if you stop you have to start pumping again... that sucks... I like to keep my momentum because it is a PAIN IN THE *** to get back to speed... so because of that I don't stop for the stop signs and the occasional light while I am riding my bicycle...

 

So, using your argument, I want better gas mileage because gas is more expensive now. So to keep momentum and save the extra gas it takes to get back to speed, I can coast through?

I only say this, because I used to bike 30+ miles a day over summer, and I'd always stop at stop signs. Yes, it takes energy, but you're riding a bike, what did you expect when you got on?

Wimpreza - I see your point, and you're basically saying bikers don't give a rat's *** about how they're causing more traffic for all the cars they just cut through, only to make matters worse for everyone else but themselves. Yeah, I hate bikers like those as well.


kylemtncruzr - While I see your point of doing it at 2am, where it won't cause any more traffic for other people, it's like comparing apples to oranges. By not obeying basic traffic laws, they're causing more traffic by making cars wait for them, and screwing over the entire purpose of traffic lights. Also, your whole thing about speeding, unless you get into an accident, usually speeding doesn't cause a crap load more traffic behind you as well. As for flying through lights at 2AM where there's no traffic, by all means do so. If I saw you doing that, as I dreadfully wait at the red light, I'd be cheering for you, haha.

 

the minimum of three feet applies only when they are in the center of the road like a normal vehicle, but if they are off the road, or on the white line this law does not apply because they are insinuating that they are off the road, thus u can go right past them... no three feet rule applied

 

I was just arguing why bicyclists don't stop not why you shouldn't stop in a car. If you are that worried about gas stop driving your car.

That's fantastic that you rode your bike 30+ mile a day... would you like a ****ing cookie? I'm riding my bicycle because I am broke as hell and I can't really afford to drive my car to places that are less than 5 miles away. I am riding my bicycle short distances and I am doing it to save money. maybe when I am in better shape I'll stop at the signs...

 

for those of you who got offended by this thread:

im talking mainly to those bikers as i discribed this morning. 9am not 2am. and biker that does not stop for signs, nor lights. a biker that just wouldn't stop for anything. crossing BIG intersections. Grand Ave and harrison. etc..by lake merrit. if you are that type of biker then yes this thread is talking about you.

if you ride bike at 2am and run lights and signs. all im saying is that is not right, but hey! its reasonable. people don't have to follow rules when don't need to.

make it clear.
bikers. ride safe, have respect for cars. if you want to share the roads, then follow the rules.

sorry for those who got offended. but you would be pissed off when you see those bikers going through lights and cars.

 

All I'm saying is your reasoning is horrible.


Wow, you're quick at getting defensive. I included that information to show you that I know what it's like to have to stop every block because there's stop signs. And good for you for being broke, maybe not having a $300+ electricity bill would help

 

i ride bikes. motorcycle though. so i'm not that type of person. i move to the left on the freeway when a bike comes up. i understand how dangerous is to ride bikes, so is bicycle. but bicyclist should becareful while riding. running lights and actions like that cause accidents.