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Dude, why you gotta be like that? I race road bikes, which means I'm out on the roads almost daily for training rides or commuting to work. I also drive a WRX, I autocross, I attend track days, I'm part of I-Club...but I ride a bike too. Don't presume that all people that ride bikes are 'yuppies' or don't obey traffic laws or deserve to be killed.
I follow all traffic laws. The one time I attempted to squeeze in behind an SUV to follow it through a dangerous intersection, thus running the stop sign, I got a $$$ ticket. I totally agree that lots of cyclists are irresponsible and don't follow traffic laws. Every time I see someone blow a stop sign or light when I'm out riding, tI chase them down and yell at them - because their behavior leads to just the kind of irrational attitudes expressed in this thread - I don't want to be a victim of someone else's road rage.
Regarding the twisty roads, it is ONLY safe and legal for a car to pass when it's safe to do so. Cyclists are fully aware that you are back there, waiting to pass. If they are in the middle of the lane, it is for the express reason that it's unsafe to pass there. If you pass me in a sharp curve, get on the yellow line and there's a car oncoming, you're going to swerve into me to avoid a collision...so it's my butt on the line. Just be patient and pass when it's safe. Getting on the horn and acting like a fool does not help - I have taken the plates of many a dangerous driver and called 911 on them....I would hate to have to do it on a Subie.
It could be a fellow I-Clubber out there. Take a breath and don't be a dick.
I follow all traffic laws. The one time I attempted to squeeze in behind an SUV to follow it through a dangerous intersection, thus running the stop sign, I got a $$$ ticket. I totally agree that lots of cyclists are irresponsible and don't follow traffic laws. Every time I see someone blow a stop sign or light when I'm out riding, tI chase them down and yell at them - because their behavior leads to just the kind of irrational attitudes expressed in this thread - I don't want to be a victim of someone else's road rage.
Regarding the twisty roads, it is ONLY safe and legal for a car to pass when it's safe to do so. Cyclists are fully aware that you are back there, waiting to pass. If they are in the middle of the lane, it is for the express reason that it's unsafe to pass there. If you pass me in a sharp curve, get on the yellow line and there's a car oncoming, you're going to swerve into me to avoid a collision...so it's my butt on the line. Just be patient and pass when it's safe. Getting on the horn and acting like a fool does not help - I have taken the plates of many a dangerous driver and called 911 on them....I would hate to have to do it on a Subie.
It could be a fellow I-Clubber out there. Take a breath and don't be a dick.
Im not assuming anybody that rides a bike like you do. My old room mate rode bikes professionally. I want to pick up a 10 speed to start riding. YOU are NOT who I am reffering to.
Relax, im talking about the people that run the stop signs, flip off cars, Dont look through intersections, Ride cruiser bikes with a louis vuitton bag and flip flops.
IM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.
I understand the rules of the road, and i have no problem yielding to a biker who has the right of way.
The fact of the matter is, we are addressing a specific group of bikers who do not obey the rules of the road and unfortunatly fall into a specific social group ( stanford college students )
i NEVER presumed that anybody who rides a bike is a yuppie (stanford specific).
Trust me. If you really want i can start talking about people who ride scraper bikes in the middle of East 14th. Its all the same type of thing. Nobody is talking about bicyclists who ride responsibly.
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I can assure you that if you rode a bicycle on the street for any amount of time, you would have far more complaints about people in cars than you do now about people on bicycles. It's funny to me when car drivers ***** about bicycles, motorcycles, trucks.... jackass car drivers are by far the biggest problem on the road.
Not saying their aren't some idiots on bikes out there, but the vast majority of bicyclists are fully aware of who loses the argument between their wheel and your bumper.
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Not saying their aren't some idiots on bikes out there, but the vast majority of bicyclists are fully aware of who loses the argument between their wheel and your bumper.
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and the thing i hate also, is that on the hills and stuff. they scream as you as you drive by telling you to SLOW DOWN, when you just pass by them close. that is because they are on teh ****ing road and taking up the CAR lane. WE as car driver PAY for the road, we PAY to drive on the road. the bicycle DON'T. we own the road, not them.
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I'm one of those biking nuts you're talking about, thank you very f'n much. I commute 10 miles each way to work on my bike. I'll admit that I blow through stop signs, and occasionally ride around the stop lights, but only when it is entirely safe. When approaching an intersection with a stop sign on a deserted road? Not stopping. If there's traffic around? Definitely stopping.
I come to T intersections where I'm riding along the "top" of the "T", so I continue to ride through the intersection. I do stop if there's traffic that I might impede by continuing, but to tell the truth, if I'm doing something wrong and I get hit, I'm not going to be suing the person who hit me if I feel I was in the wrong. Some of these people ride with pedals and riding shoes, which require a certain amount of coordination to get out of before the bike stops, or they're going down (supposedly the learning curve is going down 3 times). I wouldn't want to stop either if I was risking falling down...
I do see both sides now, especially after doing the Konocti Challenge ride around Clearlake (65 mi.). There are parts of the road where there is NO white line, as it's crumbled off on the shoulder, and the part of the road which is passable is about 2-3' toward the center.
Do I agree with these mass cyclists who ride in packs, ride 3 and 4 wide to hog the entire lane, so they can socialize and converse? Hell no.
I come to T intersections where I'm riding along the "top" of the "T", so I continue to ride through the intersection. I do stop if there's traffic that I might impede by continuing, but to tell the truth, if I'm doing something wrong and I get hit, I'm not going to be suing the person who hit me if I feel I was in the wrong. Some of these people ride with pedals and riding shoes, which require a certain amount of coordination to get out of before the bike stops, or they're going down (supposedly the learning curve is going down 3 times). I wouldn't want to stop either if I was risking falling down...
I do see both sides now, especially after doing the Konocti Challenge ride around Clearlake (65 mi.). There are parts of the road where there is NO white line, as it's crumbled off on the shoulder, and the part of the road which is passable is about 2-3' toward the center.
Do I agree with these mass cyclists who ride in packs, ride 3 and 4 wide to hog the entire lane, so they can socialize and converse? Hell no.
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Regarding the twisty roads, it is ONLY safe and legal for a car to pass when it's safe to do so. Cyclists are fully aware that you are back there, waiting to pass. If they are in the middle of the lane, it is for the express reason that it's unsafe to pass there. If you pass me in a sharp curve, get on the yellow line and there's a car oncoming, you're going to swerve into me to avoid a collision...so it's my butt on the line. Just be patient and pass when it's safe. Getting on the horn and acting like a fool does not help - I have taken the plates of many a dangerous driver and called 911 on them....I would hate to have to do it on a Subie.
It could be a fellow I-Clubber out there. Take a breath and don't be a dick.
It could be a fellow I-Clubber out there. Take a breath and don't be a dick.
That's right, I don't make the car sit behind me until we get to a "safe passing zone" I've had bikers not move over even when there is a long clear straight, so don't give me that "they don't think it's safe to pass yet" bull**** because the only reason it isn't safe is because they are making it unsafe. The law doesn't state bikers must move to the far right only when they feel it is safe to pass. It states they must STAY as far right as possible. This means NOT riding in the middle of the lane, the middle of the road, or side by side.
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this morning going to work, there was a biker, (bicycle rider) riding on the road. the thing i hate is that he never stopped for red lights. he just slow down look around, and bang he pass the light. he ran 3 red lights, and on the 3rd one i was at the light stopped already. as he pass by me i HONK the **** out of him for like whole 3 seconds. he looked back and kept on going. then 2 more red lights. the whole way that i was going to work 5 red lights.
even PEOPLE walking stop for the lights, and motocycle stop for the lights. why the hell bicycle can just ran lights like that.
that guy was wearing those riding gears, with panasonic shirt and crap. its just bull**** i think.
even PEOPLE walking stop for the lights, and motocycle stop for the lights. why the hell bicycle can just ran lights like that.
that guy was wearing those riding gears, with panasonic shirt and crap. its just bull**** i think.
i have never stopped for a light or stop sign while riding my bike! unless its a huge intersection.
are you one of those people that are jealous of lane splitting motorcycle riders so you take it out on them by opening your door or not makeing room for them to pass? cuz it sounds like it.
Sounds like you need a bike and find out that you can get to any location faster than in a car...if you run reds safely.
or you can be like one of those retarded bikers who use hand signals, and wait at an EMPTY INTERSECTION for a red light to change 30 seconds later. LOL
F that. seriously bikers who wait for red lights at empty intersections blow my mind, like they are Fn robots programmed to be retarded at all times.
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sounds like 95% replying have never even ridden a bike in the street for commuting purposes. Im sorry but i will never stop at a red unless a cop is next to me or there is a ton of traffic
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kyle, do you run reds at empty intersections in your car to save 30 whole seconds?
I think I'm going to start hogging the road in my car and ignoring traffic laws.
I think I'm going to start hogging the road in my car and ignoring traffic laws.
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well i would if i wouldnt get a ticket. I blow thru stop signs in my car all the time at T intersections in my friends neighborhood, its totally useless and a waste of gas to stop. Obviously my main concern is looking around for pets and people, then i run it, usually at night.
LOL everyone pays for the road...including the cyclist that most likely owns 2 or 3 cars at home and pays plenty of road tax at the pump...yes he has a home too. We are all tax payers 
Yeah I hate most Mtn cyclists, they are total dicks, flipping people off just because. I dont mind having to wait a few corners to pass, but if they are 2 wide and dont single file i get pretty pissed.
If bikes dont have the right of way, and are on the same legal level of cars, why is everyone afraid of bikers suing? whoevers fault it was ends up paying, i have medical i dont care.
and the thing i hate also, is that on the hills and stuff. they scream as you as you drive by telling you to SLOW DOWN, when you just pass by them close. that is because they are on teh ****ing road and taking up the CAR lane. WE as car driver PAY for the road, we PAY to drive on the road. the bicycle DON'T. we own the road, not them.
I'm one of those biking nuts you're talking about, thank you very f'n much. I commute 10 miles each way to work on my bike. I'll admit that I blow through stop signs, and occasionally ride around the stop lights, but only when it is entirely safe. When approaching an intersection with a stop sign on a deserted road? Not stopping. If there's traffic around? Definitely stopping.
I come to T intersections where I'm riding along the "top" of the "T", so I continue to ride through the intersection. I do stop if there's traffic that I might impede by continuing, but to tell the truth, if I'm doing something wrong and I get hit, I'm not going to be suing the person who hit me if I feel I was in the wrong. Some of these people ride with pedals and riding shoes, which require a certain amount of coordination to get out of before the bike stops, or they're going down (supposedly the learning curve is going down 3 times). I wouldn't want to stop either if I was risking falling down...
I do see both sides now, especially after doing the Konocti Challenge ride around Clearlake (65 mi.). There are parts of the road where there is NO white line, as it's crumbled off on the shoulder, and the part of the road which is passable is about 2-3' toward the center.
Do I agree with these mass cyclists who ride in packs, ride 3 and 4 wide to hog the entire lane, so they can socialize and converse? Hell no.
I come to T intersections where I'm riding along the "top" of the "T", so I continue to ride through the intersection. I do stop if there's traffic that I might impede by continuing, but to tell the truth, if I'm doing something wrong and I get hit, I'm not going to be suing the person who hit me if I feel I was in the wrong. Some of these people ride with pedals and riding shoes, which require a certain amount of coordination to get out of before the bike stops, or they're going down (supposedly the learning curve is going down 3 times). I wouldn't want to stop either if I was risking falling down...
I do see both sides now, especially after doing the Konocti Challenge ride around Clearlake (65 mi.). There are parts of the road where there is NO white line, as it's crumbled off on the shoulder, and the part of the road which is passable is about 2-3' toward the center.
Do I agree with these mass cyclists who ride in packs, ride 3 and 4 wide to hog the entire lane, so they can socialize and converse? Hell no.
If bikes dont have the right of way, and are on the same legal level of cars, why is everyone afraid of bikers suing? whoevers fault it was ends up paying, i have medical i dont care.
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oh, and I was at a red light yesterday and there was a bum on a bike that stopped and waited fir the green. A ****ing bum is behaving better than you "I'm on a bike so I'm above the law" guys
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I dont think i'm above the law at all, i hate those people. but i want to get to my F'n destination using as little energy as possible...so im not gonna put on my brakes in the middle of going 20 mph to stop for a stop sign, only to huff and puff to get my momentum back up to 20 again.
The Bum only stopped because he was drunk and didnt want a BUI
also, when i say run reds...i mean going 1/2 way to the center median, or going down the street a bit to cross or "jaywalk" You'll never see me riding in front of cars while their light is green, thats just stupid, i never fly thru an intersection unless my light is green, but if i see a red, you better believe im cutting down the street 100 feet to jaywalk, bunnyhop over the median and cut thru all the cars on the other side, i never ever get in the way of cars, and thats how they want it, and thats how i want it.
The Bum only stopped because he was drunk and didnt want a BUI
also, when i say run reds...i mean going 1/2 way to the center median, or going down the street a bit to cross or "jaywalk" You'll never see me riding in front of cars while their light is green, thats just stupid, i never fly thru an intersection unless my light is green, but if i see a red, you better believe im cutting down the street 100 feet to jaywalk, bunnyhop over the median and cut thru all the cars on the other side, i never ever get in the way of cars, and thats how they want it, and thats how i want it.
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what i am saying about people on bikes happens in my area during high traffic times. Sure if there is no traffic and its safe go ahead and run ur lights and signs. Again I call bikers asshats when its full traffic and they don't look or stop and then I see them get mad at other driver when driver didn't see them. People that are smart when around cars I have no issues with.
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