I'll help him out. An example of a "right" war could be The Revolutionary war of which the United States of America was born.


And to all the Anti-Iraq war people (liberals and conservatives), if this war was wrong, then why did Sadaam feel that he had to run and hide like a rat? If he knew that he had done nothing wrong, don't u think he would made some type of attempt to set up some peace talks with the U.S. once we started arriving?

 

Murtha....served
Shinseki...served
Zini......served
McCaffrey...served
Cleland....served
Major Ladda Duckworth....served
Tim Wahls...Served
Wesley Clark...Served
John Kerry....served


The list goes on and on.

Cheney....nope
Rumsfeld....nope
Rice....nope
Bush.....um....sort of.
Powell...Served, but either quit in disgust or was fired.


The list goes on and on.

 

Oh cry me a ****ing river. You act like left leaning individuals have been putting you down your whole life. Grow up, life isn't fair.

 

Yeah and that means what? Are you seriously trying to tell me that liberals are the only ones that have ever said that a war wasn't right? Each individual has his or her own point of view on a war. Regardless if they are left leaning or right leaning. But what Paul is saying is that Left leaning individuals think the US sucks. And thats total and utter bull****. If we all thought this we wouldn't be living here. What because we disagree with a retarded war, that was pushed on to us by a lie, we suddenly hate the US. He needs to grow up.

 

you're joking right.....how about wwII......we were unjustly attacked by Japan, that in my book constitutes a declaration of war.

who made the US the world police?, and if we are, why don't we stop injustice everywhere, instead of just in oil rich countries (for the most part). I know the argument has been brought up many times before and is not exactly an original idea, but I still have yet to hear an accceptable answer.

 

You give Wesley Clark and John Kerry credit but discredit Powell as possibly being fired? Hahahahaha

Wesley Clark got fired and John Kerry was a kiss *** out for medals! You personally claim to have served but never hit the nail on the head on what your experience in uniform should have involved.

Everyone that's ever served here could give you a short list on kissass soldiers that would be put in for a medal they didn't deserve ahead of someone that actually deserved one. Hell, two of them I can think of are still good friends of mine!

 

More along the lines of our military never being up to their high standards. I think that more liberals than conservatives are prone to feeling this way.

 

Honestly Salty, I think that it only seems that way to people that have served. I can only tell you how I feel about it and try to explain it the best way I can. I only have a problem with how the war was started and how it will be finished and how many of our young men and women we are losing over there. I cannot fault the military for doing what it was mandated to do by Congress and the President, now I can fault the President and the Congress (Democratic and Republican) for not having more restraint and trying to get better intelligence on critical issues in the lead up to the Iraq war, when all accounts seem to say that the intelligence was shoddy at best. We should have waited a little bit longer to get more and better intelligence. Maybe we would have realized that Iraq was not really a threat to us and we would be better equipted to deal with the Iran situation that we are running into now. They are much more of a threat to us and the middle east than Iraq has been since the first Gulf war.

Just my .02

BTW, Oaf (Paul) is there a thread with PICS of your new shop? Good luck with that venture, maybe when I get a new STI (c'mon new job) I will cross-country it to Norcal and check out the shop.....