The Wrong Army?
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The Wrong Army?
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Originally Posted by Paul
I'm just getting very annoyed by the constant "America Sucks/Bush Sucks/America is the cause of the world's problems " mantra that the Left has been spewing since I was a baby.
I'm tired of Leftists complaining about the war but offering no solutions that will lead to a stronger US.
I'm tired of Leftists that that constantly point out the short comings of our policy, specifically the military, and have not served themselves.
I'm tired of Leftists complaining about the war but offering no solutions that will lead to a stronger US.
I'm tired of Leftists that that constantly point out the short comings of our policy, specifically the military, and have not served themselves.
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obviously its not the wrong Army.....but definitely the wrong conflict.....even you right wingers can agree that we wouldn't be any worse off had we not invaded Iraq again.
but we are definitely worse off now that we have taken part in the occupation of Iraq, I've heard cost totals ranging from 180billion to 2 trillion dollars. 180 being quoted from US gov't. and 2 trillion quoted from independent analysts including long term cost of health care for wounded soldiers.
Iraq was of no threat to us at all. So all this hoopla (sp?) was to bring democracy to the middle east.....oh my god, women can't go to school.....oh my god, women have no rights in Iraq.....oh my god, teenage girls in Iraq can't wear jeans!
but we are definitely worse off now that we have taken part in the occupation of Iraq, I've heard cost totals ranging from 180billion to 2 trillion dollars. 180 being quoted from US gov't. and 2 trillion quoted from independent analysts including long term cost of health care for wounded soldiers.
Iraq was of no threat to us at all. So all this hoopla (sp?) was to bring democracy to the middle east.....oh my god, women can't go to school.....oh my god, women have no rights in Iraq.....oh my god, teenage girls in Iraq can't wear jeans!
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Total and utter bull****. What was the point of this right wing waco statement?
Pick a war, any war. (For that matter, pick any period of peace.) Then dig up as many official and unofficial historical documents, reports, reconstruction's, and commentaries as you can. For every unbiased account you uncover, you'll find three commentaries by revisionist historians who cannot wait to tell you how badly the U.S. military bungled things.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Total and utter bull****. What was the point of this right wing waco statement?
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Originally Posted by case1
obviously its not the wrong Army.....but definitely the wrong conflict.....even you right wingers can agree that we wouldn't be any worse off had we not invaded Iraq again.
but we are definitely worse off now that we have taken part in the occupation of Iraq, I've heard cost totals ranging from 180billion to 2 trillion dollars. 180 being quoted from US gov't. and 2 trillion quoted from independent analysts including long term cost of health care for wounded soldiers.
Iraq was of no threat to us at all. So all this hoopla (sp?) was to bring democracy to the middle east.....oh my god, women can't go to school.....oh my god, women have no rights in Iraq.....oh my god, teenage girls in Iraq can't wear jeans!
but we are definitely worse off now that we have taken part in the occupation of Iraq, I've heard cost totals ranging from 180billion to 2 trillion dollars. 180 being quoted from US gov't. and 2 trillion quoted from independent analysts including long term cost of health care for wounded soldiers.
Iraq was of no threat to us at all. So all this hoopla (sp?) was to bring democracy to the middle east.....oh my god, women can't go to school.....oh my god, women have no rights in Iraq.....oh my god, teenage girls in Iraq can't wear jeans!
I have never heard nor read of a "right" war.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
What has been a "right" war?
I have never heard nor read of a "right" war.
I have never heard nor read of a "right" war.
And to all the Anti-Iraq war people (liberals and conservatives), if this war was wrong, then why did Sadaam feel that he had to run and hide like a rat? If he knew that he had done nothing wrong, don't u think he would made some type of attempt to set up some peace talks with the U.S. once we started arriving?
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Murtha....served
Shinseki...served
Zini......served
McCaffrey...served
Cleland....served
Major Ladda Duckworth....served
Tim Wahls...Served
Wesley Clark...Served
John Kerry....served
The list goes on and on.
Cheney....nope
Rumsfeld....nope
Rice....nope
Bush.....um....sort of.
Powell...Served, but either quit in disgust or was fired.
The list goes on and on.
Shinseki...served
Zini......served
McCaffrey...served
Cleland....served
Major Ladda Duckworth....served
Tim Wahls...Served
Wesley Clark...Served
John Kerry....served
The list goes on and on.
Cheney....nope
Rumsfeld....nope
Rice....nope
Bush.....um....sort of.
Powell...Served, but either quit in disgust or was fired.
The list goes on and on.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
To add a little balance & understanding to the Leftist filth I've put up with for 36 years.
Oh cry me a ****ing river. You act like left leaning individuals have been putting you down your whole life. Grow up, life isn't fair.
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Originally Posted by Salty
Care to prove this wrong?
Yeah and that means what? Are you seriously trying to tell me that liberals are the only ones that have ever said that a war wasn't right? Each individual has his or her own point of view on a war. Regardless if they are left leaning or right leaning. But what Paul is saying is that Left leaning individuals think the US sucks. And thats total and utter bull****. If we all thought this we wouldn't be living here. What because we disagree with a retarded war, that was pushed on to us by a lie, we suddenly hate the US. He needs to grow up.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
What has been a "right" war?
I have never heard nor read of a "right" war.
I have never heard nor read of a "right" war.
who made the US the world police?, and if we are, why don't we stop injustice everywhere, instead of just in oil rich countries (for the most part). I know the argument has been brought up many times before and is not exactly an original idea, but I still have yet to hear an accceptable answer.
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
Murtha....served
Shinseki...served
Zini......served
McCaffrey...served
Cleland....served
Major Ladda Duckworth....served
Tim Wahls...Served
Wesley Clark...Served
John Kerry....served
The list goes on and on.
Cheney....nope
Rumsfeld....nope
Rice....nope
Bush.....um....sort of.
Powell...Served, but either quit in disgust or was fired.
The list goes on and on.
Shinseki...served
Zini......served
McCaffrey...served
Cleland....served
Major Ladda Duckworth....served
Tim Wahls...Served
Wesley Clark...Served
John Kerry....served
The list goes on and on.
Cheney....nope
Rumsfeld....nope
Rice....nope
Bush.....um....sort of.
Powell...Served, but either quit in disgust or was fired.
The list goes on and on.
You give Wesley Clark and John Kerry credit but discredit Powell as possibly being fired? Hahahahaha
Wesley Clark got fired and John Kerry was a kiss *** out for medals! You personally claim to have served but never hit the nail on the head on what your experience in uniform should have involved.
Everyone that's ever served here could give you a short list on kissass soldiers that would be put in for a medal they didn't deserve ahead of someone that actually deserved one. Hell, two of them I can think of are still good friends of mine!
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Yeah and that means what? Are you seriously trying to tell me that liberals are the only ones that have ever said that a war wasn't right?
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Originally Posted by Salty
More along the lines of our military never being up to their high standards. I think that more liberals than conservatives are prone to feeling this way.
Just my .02
BTW, Oaf (Paul) is there a thread with PICS of your new shop? Good luck with that venture, maybe when I get a new STI (c'mon new job) I will cross-country it to Norcal and check out the shop.....
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