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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Would it matter if we used a mini-nuke on the shrine?

El guapo loco (the freak with the bad teeth) is still held up in the mosque.... I say we mini-nuke it to oblivion. What d'ya say?

I honestly don't think anyone will lose sleep over it.

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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mini-nuke? Last time I checked there was no such thing as a "mini nuke." Are you referring to a neutron bomb, what? Do us all a favor and don't post inane stupid **** like this.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Ever heard of a myth called pandoras box. We do it to Iraq and all of a sudden Israel starts lighting up the palestinians, the North Koreans the south koreans and on and on and on...cause if we do it than who are we to say who can and can't do it anymore.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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mini-nuke? Last time I checked there was no such thing as a "mini nuke."
Where were you looking last time you checked? I'll defer to your expertise on the subject.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 02:13 PM
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way to support your statement. . . find me this "mini-nuke" you speak of, from a legit sourse (ie: Jane's, DoD, something along those lines). The "burden of proof" so to speak is on you, since you made up this "mini-nuke"
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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I think he is referring to "tactical nukes". Regardless, it would be a rediculous idea. Blowing up one of thier most holy shrines is certainly not going to help anything.

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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"What shrine," is all I have to say. You mean that clearing over there?
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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I'd hardly call a tactical nuke "mini" lol, hella, is that what you meant?
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The question isn't about the size of the weapon or what kind of weapon should be used.
What I'd really like to see discussed here is why is the mosque is still standing.
I already know the answer...well, at least the most plausible answer that my military-historic logic could come up with.

Our country, from the Prez down to you & me, are pussies and we don't have the spark in our bellies to win this war.

The last time America fought a pre-emptive war, that being the European Campaign of WWII, we took the gloves off & butchered the enemy.
Our leaders and most importantly, our fighting men, would level a Christian church if one lowly sniper was thought to be in the bell tower. US tankers didn't (have to) think twice before driving their Shermans through a Christian cemetery.

Look what the Allied forces did to Monte Cassino, a Christian Monastery, in order to prevent the Germans from shelling our troops.

And today we can't stomach what the world would say if we leveled one mosque in order to smoke one Islamic cleric.

I'll say it again.
We...our troops...are doomed unless America can remove the gloves.

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Well, they are also fighting our occupation, so its alot different than WW2. Now, since we INVADED a country and overthrew its government, we have walk very carefully. It sucks, but we pretty much set our own rules here.
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Originally Posted by constellation
Well, they are also fighting our occupation, so its alot different than WW2..
Not true.
I assume that by saying "they", you are refering to the Islamic fighters.
The Werewolf units of occupied Germany fought a guerrilla war of terror against Allied forces & Germans that sided with the Allied occupation forces.

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Now, since we INVADED a country and overthrew its government, we have walk very carefully. It sucks, but we pretty much set our own rules here.
Very True.
We invaded a country & defeated the leadership that we perceived as a threat.
And since we "pretty much set our own rules", let's rewrite those rules.

By the way, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but do you believe that we attacked/invaded Iraq without provocation?

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I think it's more along the lines of: if we touch a mosque, the greater global muslim community will be up in arms and it would be political seppuku
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Originally Posted by jdepould
I think it's more along the lines of: if we touch a mosque, the greater global muslim community will be up in arms and it would be political seppuku
Exactly my point.
America is more concerned what the global muslim community would think if we razed a mosque.
Mind you, this is the same greater global muslim community that has not come out & publicly condemned any one of the civilian beheadings.
So, really, why is America worried about the opinion of the greater global muslim community.
By the way, the greater global muslim community is already up in arms.

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Plus you can't put the coalition leadership in the position of looking like they can't handle him. Regardless if whether they can or can't you have to leave it up to them, if you ever want out of Iraq
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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no no no, my point is that there would be retaliation, be it political, military, or economic, and we don't need that.



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