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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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ehhh wrong again.. education may have a role to play but it is not the answer

think serial killers, think school shootings, think *insert headline news here*.
Yeah that makes sense... Because the cartoon riots -and- retaliation measures from those in defense were conveniently organized by a massive group of lunatics that just happened to be in the same place at the same time. Your comparisons never completely add-up, Dre.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
And to me, both of those motivations are equally rediculous.

This situation is EXACTLY like sibling fights...'Christians' made a cartoon, 'Muslims' riot and kill in retaliation, then 'Christians' riot and kill (and don't 'turn the other cheek' as their religion teaches I might add...). Little children whining and *****ing with AKs and grenades. Both religions need a one century time out...
Did Christians make the cartoon or was it a Danish cartoonist? There may be a major fault in your argument if they didn’t. Again, I think these actions were mainly based on defensive human nature accompanied by the ignorant behavior we all expect from such a region.

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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
dont wallow in your own ignorance or anything buddy...
to hate is to be human. And to project your own ignorance upon islam or a region of the world and say its more prone to them is only displaying the fact that ignorance is universal as well.
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Islam is involved in most of the major conflicts around the world, so much that the presence of the Islamic faith is a known preindication for the presence of violent conflict. Whether or not the average muslim is violent, the violent extremist is generally present to a major degree. Whitewash it all you like Dr3, but the evidence makes you look like an imbacile.

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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
Did Christians make the cartoon or was it a Danish cartoonist? There may be a major fault in your argument if they didn’t. Again, I think these actions were mainly based on defensive human nature accompanied by the ignorant behavior we all expect from such a region.

Even if the cartoons were done by Danish cartoonists, it is a Christian dominated country and that's how it's seen. Defensive human nature accompanied by ignorance is just Christianity in different words. C'mon salty...you have to see how this act by Christians exposes how both Muslims and Christians (ok, maybe just poor undereducated Muslims and Christians) are equally evil in their actions.

It's funny how when it's a Muslim thing, you have NO problem blaming the whole religion anymore (you've proclaimed this yourself) but in THIS case it's not Christianity...it's ignorance and defensive behavior. Very ignorant of you, and slightly defensive in nature...
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Even if the cartoons were done by Danish cartoonists, it is a Christian dominated country and that's how it's seen. Defensive human nature accompanied by ignorance is just Christianity in different words.
But it being a Danish cartoonist that's not necessarily Christian suggests there's no correlation between the cartoonist and the African Christians. There's a big gap there that doesn’t add up… not to mention it's no excuse.

The bottom line is that even though this retaliation group consists of Christians, there's no way to prove their actions were motivated by solely religion, an even combination of Christianity and ignorant human nature, or human nature accompanied by a sliver of Christianity. We cannot make any assumptions that Christianity is a factor in this party because they weren't the advancing assailants. If they had advanced to an Islamic region then this wouldn't be the case as it would show motive.

On the other hand we have irrefutable evidence that the actions of the Muslim radicals are being fueled by Religion and ignorant human nature because they did advance to Christian territory, and because of what they’re protesting. You cannot label the Christians as being religiously motivated in this case just as you shouldn’t label any other group in a comparable situation. The only thing we can assume is that this is nothing more than defensive human nature accompanied by the ignorant behavior we all expect from such a region.

I'm not trying to make excuses here either... I truly believe they’re acting out in frustration with the entire ordeal. I believe the whole world is frustrated with Islam and has been for quite sometime.

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It's funny how when it's a Muslim thing, you have NO problem blaming the whole religion anymore.
I've never blamed the whole Islamic religion. I HAVE blamed them (the peaceful ones) for not doing more.

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You put Christianity on way too high a pedastel to continue this discussion.

These Christian people rioted because they were offended by Muslim people. Plain and simple, 100% religious motivation. If you don't see that you're blind.

The fact that you keep trying to manipulate this so that Chritianity comes out smelling like roses is hilarious when you consider the way you treat Muslim actions like this.

Stop pretending these Christians weren't motivated by their religion; stop pretending that Islam is the only religion that causes harm in the world; and most importantly stop pretending this event does not indicate that Christianity and Islam are on equal ground in terms of religions.
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I just don't think there's anyway to prove reasonable motive beyond frustration accompanied by ignorant human behavior (fear of Muslims because of their recent actions, not because the Christians are Christian with a newfound opportunity to attack them) You see the difference yet?

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stop pretending this event does not indicate that Christianity and Islam are on equal ground in terms of religions.
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Let's be honest... a group of Christians that may or may not of had motives outside of fear to attack these Muslims does not get their faces plastered on every wanted poster in the free world. Can't quite say that for the other religion, now can I?

Let me ask you this then... If you had to chose between meeting one of these Christians or Muslims today then who would you choose?

Would you chose the Muslim that automatically associates you as being Christian because you're an Amercian, or the African Christian that's not threatened by you unless he's certain you're Muslim?

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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
Yeah that makes sense... Because the cartoon riots -and- retaliation measures from those in defense were conveniently organized by a massive group of lunatics that just happened to be in the same place at the same time. Your comparisons never completely add-up, Dre.

your ability to comprehend things doesnt quite add up my post is as clear as day for those who can view things objectively
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by What Dre Saw


Did anyone hear or see something?
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
AHahahahha Dr3.... Earth Calling... Dr3? ... yo! Dizzle Dizzle, where is my nizzle Dr3?

Wake up dude: www.thereligionofpeace.com


Islam is involved in most of the major conflicts around the world, so much that the presence of the Islamic faith is a known preindication for the presence of violent conflict. Whether or not the average muslim is violent, the violent extremist is generally present to a major degree. Whitewash it all you like Dr3, but the evidence makes you look like an imbacile.

ps its imbecile



and im still waiting for your reply in the "aint science a mother****er" thread.. you wouldnt be scared would you?
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
But it being a Danish cartoonist that's not necessarily Christian suggests there's no correlation between the cartoonist and the African Christians. There's a big gap there that doesn’t add up… not to mention it's no excuse.

The bottom line is that even though this retaliation group consists of Christians, there's no way to prove their actions were motivated by solely religion, an even combination of Christianity and ignorant human nature, or human nature accompanied by a sliver of Christianity. We cannot make any assumptions that Christianity is a factor in this party because they weren't the advancing assailants. If they had advanced to an Islamic region then this wouldn't be the case as it would show motive.

On the other hand we have irrefutable evidence that the actions of the Muslim radicals are being fueled by Religion and ignorant human nature because they did advance to Christian territory, and because of what they’re protesting. You cannot label the Christians as being religiously motivated in this case just as you shouldn’t label any other group in a comparable situation. The only thing we can assume is that this is nothing more than defensive human nature accompanied by the ignorant behavior we all expect from such a region.

I'm not trying to make excuses here either... I truly believe they’re acting out in frustration with the entire ordeal. I believe the whole world is frustrated with Islam and has been for quite sometime.



I've never blamed the whole Islamic religion. I HAVE blamed them (the peaceful ones) for not doing more.

Using your logic i blame you for not stoping the christian violence in africa...
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
Using your logic i blame you for not stoping the christian violence in africa...
There you trying to be smart again. First of all i'd have to be Christian you moron. *sigh*

But i'll go ahead and say that I deplore any acts of violence such as this. There... I did it... I did more as an agnostic individual against Christianity than most Muslims have against their own set of radicals.
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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There you trying to be smart again. First of all i'd have to be Christian you moron. *sigh*

But i'll go ahead and say that I deplore any acts of violence such as this. There... I did it... I did more as an agnostic individual against Christianity than most Muslims have against their own set of radicals.

Dont have to be smart.. using the same retarded generalizational (new word!!) logic i cans imply say that because the majority of christians i know are white and the fact that you are white i can blame all white people for not stoping the violence.

KILL WHITEY!

ps i dont have to try, i is
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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There you trying to be smart again. First of all i'd have to be Christian you moron. *sigh*

But i'll go ahead and say that I deplore any acts of violence such as this. There... I did it... I did more as an agnostic individual against Christianity than most Muslims have against their own set of radicals.
Generalize much?
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Originally Posted by Salty

Let me ask you this then... If you had to chose between meeting one of these Christians or Muslims today then who would you choose?

Would you chose the Muslim that automatically associates you as being Christian because you're an Amercian, or the African Christian that's not threatened by you unless he's certain you're Muslim?

I don't want to meet any religious nuts. That's my point, I see the truth that both groups are full of misguided idiots who THINK they're doing the right thing because they're 'defending' their religion.

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I just don't think there's anyway to prove reasonable motive beyond frustration accompanied by ignorant human behavior (fear of Muslims because of their recent actions, not because the Christians are Christian with a newfound opportunity to attack them) You see the difference yet?
Are you serious? They're not affraid of Muslims, they're MAD at Muslims. Just like the fanatic Muslims are mad at non-Muslims. I don't see the 'difference' you are claiming because there IS NO DIFFERENCE. I don't hear about any group of secular people rioting because Muslims are rioting...they're a Christian group rioting because of Christian causes...RELIGION IS THE CAUSE.

I know what you're feeling though...you've been building a case for the last several months agains Islam, saying it's worse than other religions, and all the sudden you realize you've been wrong...all religions really are bad, and you don't know what to do...I'm sorry.



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