lojasmo

If your premise was true, I would pay attention to the straw man at the end....however...

All through the nineties, when unemployment was low, the minimum wage was raised only a quarter, and that's still what people here in minnesota are getting paid. Supply of low skilled workers does not change the prevailing wage.

Chrisnonstop

I saw a study done on immigration, legal or not. The more people that come into this country the better chance we have of keeping our work force young. This is actually very important. If you look at other countries that have very strict immigrations laws, you'll see that the average age of labor workers is much higher. This creates problems.

Of course too much of anything, in this case immigration, could be bad. But, it's been good for us in the past. Of course just like everything else, excessive immigration has it's pro's and Con's. Duh. Now I'm just stating the obvious.

HellaDumb

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These articles fail to address the fact that we have enough human resources here to fill these jobs if we put up an imaginary wall around the U.S.

Here are many of the contributing factors for our immigrant problem:
1)Our society supports laziness through welfare, govt health care, education and rent subsidies.
2)People are lazy and won't make short term sacrifices to get educated
3)Corporations and our government love keeping mexicans in the gutter for cheap labor
4)Corporations and our government would sell their mother to make a buck
5)Unions and other socialistic complexities make outsourcing more attractive and make employing U.S. workers unattractive

SubyN00by

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took yur jaaaah!

MVWRX

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Actually, that's exactly what they address...we WOULD NOT have enough workers to fill jobs as our economy grows UNLESS we have immigrants.

MVWRX

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Did you read the article? It states, in very plain English, that we will NOT have enough workers to fill all the jobs that will exist in the future of our growing economy UNLESS we allow and encourage immigrants to come here to work. If the economy can't be supported by the proper number of workers, all wages will crash with the economy.



What the hell is up with this zealous xenaphobia nowadays? I can elicit responses from people who don't even post here just by suggesting that immigrants are good for our economy...wow.

lojasmo

Can you read?

The article states that we will have a 77m worker shortage when the boomer population retires.

Unemployment statistics show 13m unemployed.

I presume you can at least subtract 13 from 77, but in case not, it leaves a deficit of workers to the tune of 64 million persons at the advent of boomer retirement.

HellaDumb

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I don't mean to be overly harsh, but are you -edited to be nice-?

It states that 77m will retire, but it DOES NOT address the productivity effects of technology or our untapped labor pool that could step up to the plate.

We aren't likely to get much productivity even if we try out of citizens and non-citizens that are milking our social services, but a 77m gap of the elderly in our workforce is a blessing!!!!

Do you really think that we should immigrate one Chinese worker and his/her family for every 65+ year old unproductive fossil that retires? That's the stupidest thing ever! Do you really think U.S. workers are going to pay someone here to do the job when they can farm it out overseas?? Give me a break.

Maybe if we stop aborting kids and raise them to be productive taxpaying citizens we can stop this madness!

HellaDumb

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The article is BS.

MVWRX

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No, you're BS. You have no proof of ANY of your claims except your own rampant xenaphobia and biases. You argue against an article that describes a document written by professionals with "I don't believe it, you're wrong, it's BS". Leave please, your contributions here are not on a level that is worth dealing with.

MVWRX

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Uh....what is the 'untapped labor pool'...unemployed? Oh yeah...that was already addressed...


if you're refering to the young people who will enter the work force, the projection in the article does take that into account.



I know you've based your whole anti-immigration stance on a false premise, and that must hurt, but now's the time for you to realize that and change.

HellaDumb

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Ahahhaha yeah. I see how you avoided my 1:1 about a 65 year old being equivalent to a new immigrant grad... very wise and misleading of you!

If 70 million old inefficient people retiring makes you worry about the workforce, then you have serious problems. This article has an agenda.

Oh, and by the way, I'm no xenophobe... I happen to like diversity. I think America should stay diverse, rather than becoming a third world nation with self-segregating ethnic populations. That's where we're headed with such insane levels of immigration.