psoper

RussB,
1) Nobody would take anything from your paycheck, taxes would be imposed on profits, your paycheck is a cost of doing business, so your company would actually have incentive to give you a raise more often.
2) No corporation would want to minimize their profits- profits are what attract investors and shareholders demand profits, half of them going to the government would only make shareholders demand more profits.

Oaf,
Flat taxes are typically pitched from the most conservative side of the spectrum, and actually most of my political philospohy is rooted more in Jeffersonian Libertarianism, than any particular brand of socialism.

However, I do feel that between the prescription drug, malpractice insurance and HMO industries screwing this country over royally is sufficient evidence that the self regulated medical industry being run exclusively as a "for-profit" enterprise is not in the long term best interest of the country.

and I just looked at my last pay stub- you have it easy- 34.88% of my gross is gone to various taxes right off the bat, and I have to say I really hate the way its being spent these days.

psoper

Not if she worked any place I've ever worked, or had a say in pay rates...


Make like your Grandparents maybe?



Or are you speaking hypothetically?, in today's reality the job market ain't what it once was if you're out looking for employment, that option might not be readily available to you.

With a lot of Enron employees, it was a matter of the company administered 401K plan, which practically did just that, all of your retirement was based on shares of the company.

Gee, you have the social sensibility to not use the "N word", impressive!

No I didn't mention fraud, last time I checked, that was a criminal offence, so let's start prosecuting for it.

Whoa there, I never said anything about welfare, other than in the purely conceptual context, in that I think there is a basic human imperative, regardless of religion or political affiliation to provide some support and compassion for your fellow citizens and the citizens of the world at large when in need.

How that is handled has varied through the ages, religious groups, and the medical profession have always been the cornerstones of "welfare" through most of what has led up to "modern civilization", but both of those institutions themselves are seemingly awash in greed and corruption these days.

No I don't give that any though at all, I think the times ahead are way too f***ed up for me to be willing to bring another person into the world, especially if people who think as hostily as you seem to wind up in charge.

Congratulations on living the American dream though, My brother and parents and I all own property too, although only my brother has income property.

You'd be well advised to keep in mind who's paying your mortgage though, because if you let the "Slum" part of the slum lord thing got too real you'll have your tenents and the city and state sueing you for everything they can get.

Fortunately there are still some laws on the books.

sorry about the hijack, but I think relevent points were made in other thread.

psoper

Do you know what Progressive income tax means?

By the way, my answer to this question is no.


Why? -because that unfairly weighs the tax scale to those who can best avoid paying taxes anyway, so the state gets gypped out of most of what they should have coming, and the burden is born by those who can least afford it.

dub2w

^^ awesome post.

The sad thing is, whenever people start bringing up the idea of helping others, hard-line conservatives cry "socialist" and the ideas get no traction.

I am not in favor of hand-outs... we need to hold people accountable while acknowledging that there indeed exists socialized segregation in this country and we collectively need to evolve above it

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