Why dont people talk about what is going in Darfur, Sudan? I know very little about it. Never see Drudge links, news analysis, or even that much online.

This is a good article from the Christian Science Monitor:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0503/p08s03-comv.html


Also, thought this was a good quotel from Sojourners: (a liberal Christian mag)

"This is not a partisan issue, for Republicans and the Christian Right led the way in blowing the whistle on the slaughter in Darfur.... Ultimately, public pressure may force Mr. Bush to respond to Darfur, but it looks as if he will have to be dragged kicking and screaming by Republicans and Democrats alike."

- New York Times columnist Nicholas D. Kristof

 

I’m confused. How did the Christian Right blow the whistle on the slaughter in dafur?

 

There was a program about this on TV last night. Our government has sent in inspectors and has concluded that ethnic cleansing has and is occurring (black Christians are being killed and/or displaced by Arab Muslims).

Here's what I got from it: The problem is that the governments and army are participating in the genocide, so unless we want to deal with another regime change/nation building exercise, this isn't going to lie on our shoulders. There is a recently created African organization that is going in to help (forget what they are called), but who knows how much they can actually help when the government of Darfur is part of the problem.

 

That's what I was trying to get at. It's almost like having the Sunnis and Shiites at each others throats except the majority is reversed. Meaning the Sunnis are still the powerful ones under Saddam that got away with murder but also have a majority in the population that goes by a completely different form of religion. Not a good combo.

Here's the way I see it... it’s the same thing that’s happening in Nigeria: Most African Muslims seem to be powerful bullies and fanatics that want a complete Islamic nation under sharia. For example, there's a few recent groups that have committed these murders (mostly women) as "Osama's servants" without every being in UBL’s presence. Wtf? I'm sure Christians are answering back too but mostly out of fear or defense. Not sure though. My guess is that it's sorta like Israel and Palestine but in a extremely famished land complete with anarchy. Religious fanaticism... gotta love it!

 

Kinda like Iraq, but much more desperate, and no oil to lust after...

SO LETS IGNORE IT!!!

...I think this was the point, am I wrong?

 

We've covered this before. Why buy oil from a guy (Saddam) who can only sell when you give him permission to sell? Makes no sense to send in an Military Campaign that grosses $300 billion for fields that exported mainly to USA (pre-OIF) at next to nothing in price. Not to mention the cost of us doing business in this area isn’t worth it for this very reason. All this and I haven’t even begun to talk about tariffs...

And Sudan does have oil. It would make more sense to have gone after Sudan's oil from the start (instead of Iraq like you suggest) because they never were exporting to us to for peanuts begin with, you see?

Now back on Sudan please...

 

How about we get all of Europe and all of Asia, along with us and the rest of the Americas, to put an embargo on all trade with Sudan...I don't see why this doesn't happen more often to keep trouble nations in control.

I mean... whoever's in control over there probably needs trade to happen, right?

 

Trade for what? Bottles of water they don't have, ivory and carved wooden dolls? jk

 

scoobsport is on to something. we have very little to gain in Sudan. Specifically, it is not the ME hub for US interests that we desired / claimed in our war in Iraq

Let's face it, if we were earnest in our uprooting of terrorism, wouldnt quelling a genocide make an impact on the war on terror? This shows are true intentions. We only fight what will hurt us, not others. Our brass couldnt give a ****

 

hmmmmmmmmmm.... no relevant, intelligent responses coming to mind... time to crack a joke!

you never fail...

 

So, if Sudan was more of a desperate situation in terms of peacekeeping and needing humanitarian efforts, why did we choose to 'fix' Iraq?
I still think it was, at least in the back of their minds, to gain some control over the region and prevent our supplies from possibly being interrupted in the future by a unpredictable dictator. You seem to know more about the specifics and numbers than I, but I'm having trouble understanding your point. [mostly the 2nd and 3rd sentence]- sorry, I don't recall covering this before- where am I going wrong in my assesment?

 

OMG you're logic is ridiculous. I'll be sure to PM you all my jokes before posting in my forum.

 

NO WAIT! - that's your logic, so I guess you're ridiculous. I don't want to screen your jokes, I don't really know what you're getting at there. If you want to know, I'd like to see you use your brain and stop copping out with lame *** humerous quips, which seem to pop up whenever you can't seem to come up with a decent response.

 

I love it how this has been kept very much on the down-low ever since it started, and how it has so many similarities to the Rwanda genocide. We admit its genocide but refuse to help. Puah, genocide does not matter, especally when its in Africa in a country we dont trade with! Let them die, we dont want to get our little hands dirty in some buisness over there. (sarcasm)

 

Yeah...Let's send in Team USA World Police!!!!!! Yeahhhhhhhhh!