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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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On a side note, there is a bar out here in GA that has inflammatory comments on their billboard. One of them recently read, "Michal Jackson is guilty cause he is a ni**er." It is sickening. Civil Rights Groups have peacefully protested the establishment, and that is, I think, the best recourse one should have in a civilzed society. The again, it is easy foer me to say when no one is calling me and my family ni**ers.
Do you mind if I ask if you're black? I'm curious because of your last comment. If you would have more of a probability of being called such a thing, than most of the test of us.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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Do you mind if I ask if you're black?
Only my bottom half

























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ok, that was uncalled for!
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jvick125
Do you mind if I ask if you're black? I'm curious because of your last comment. If you would have more of a probability of being called such a thing, than most of the test of us.
It is "easy for me to say" that peaceful protests against overt racism should be the norm because I am not black and do not have to deal with that kind of racism.

My wife and I have a mixed-race marriage and we do occasionally see eyebrows raised in the south, but not much beyond that (thank you God!)
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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Again, what a bunch of crap you spew. I know people who fled NOLA. Cash machines were releasing a maximum of $40. How do you think people were going to get ample supplies of food and water out of NOLA with them while on foot?
The crap I spew? You still miss my point on this matter! If the white man was capable of blowing the levee it would be at any time (see I can bold letters too), not just during the hurricane.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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The crap I spew? You still miss my point on this matter! If the white man was capable of blowing the levee it would be at any time (see I can bold letters too), not just during the hurricane.
This discussion isn't about NOLA or the levees. You said:

Originally Posted by salty
I can almost guarantee the neo-**** party did not cast the first stone.
To which I replied:

Originally Posted by Jas
Sure. A group who, less than one genertion ago was able to lynch blacks with inpunity....didn't cast the first stone by holding a demonstration in a black neighborhood.
And you inexplicably said:

Originally Posted by salty
then why weren't they overstocked with food and water? Instead, they showed up to the city center like a guest without potato salad and a ketchup at a BBQ. It's just plain stupidity.
And honestly, I can't even begin to quantify the idiocy of that statement.

SO let's get back on topic: The timing and placement of the KKK rally was incindiary.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
SO let's get back on topic: The timing and placement of the KKK rally was incindiary.
Indeed, and I think that there actions are ludicrous and despicable. Still, as citizens they have every right to peacefully protest / assemble.

i.e. One could argue that peaceful protests in Birmingham, AL by black citizens in the 1960s were incidiary and that they deserved to be beaten by cops, dogs, and angry white racist mobs.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
Indeed, and I think that there actions are ludicrous and despicable. Still, as citizens they have every right to peacefully protest / assemble.
Thank you! The buck stops at that.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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The supremacists were marching without a permit. They did not have a right to be there. They should have been cited for disorderly conduct and arrested.

Their actions were obviously intended to incite a strong reaction.

Unfortunately, it worked, and now a bunch of idiots think it was the citizens who live in those neighborhoods who are responsible for the conflagration.

Racists are feckless and stupid.

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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
The supremacists were marching without a permit. They did not have a right to be there. They should have been cited for disorderly conduct and arrested.
IGNORANCE IS NOT AN ART FORM!

A high estimate for the # of "supremacists marching" (walking on the sidewalk) was two dozen, while there were 100-200 disorderly gangsters and thugs.
They did NOT need a permit to walk on the sidewalk, and they had EVERY right to be there.

Please read this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051016/..._us/nazi_march

http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showf...Number=5127725
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
The supremacists were marching without a permit. They did not have a right to be there. They should have been cited for disorderly conduct and arrested.
You, my friend, need to read this.


Originally Posted by lojasmo
Their actions were obviously intended to incite a strong reaction.
Yes, it was, which is the exactly the type of free speach that needs to be protected.

Originally Posted by lojasmo
Racists are feckless and stupid.
Yes, they are.
But they have every right to be just that.

So, lo, what's the difference between these two fine individuals?

Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
Only my bottom half
:banana:

ok, that was uncalled for!
Either you got biiiig feet or a biiiig ****?



Now, that was uncalled for!!
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Hey, lo, does this mean that you support the actions of the peaceful counter-protesters?
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
The supremacists were marching without a permit. They did not have a right to be there. They should have been cited for disorderly conduct and arrested.

Their actions were obviously intended to incite a strong reaction.
Wtf? even the mayor who is black says the riot was started by gangstas. nobody is sticking up for the ****ing ***** ! although we happen to be sane enough to figure out by deductive reasoning that the illegal actions that went on were not perpetuated by white supremecists.
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
Wtf? even the mayor who is black says the riot was started by gangstas. nobody is sticking up for the ****ing ***** ! although we happen to be sane enough to figure out by deductive reasoning that the illegal actions that went on were not perpetuated by white supremecists.
That's inductive reasoning.....at best.

In fact, since you weren't there, and don't have all the facts, it's not really reasoning at all.

Nothing was perpetuated, in fact.

Oaf: Your post only contains one picture. Who are you asking me to compare and contrast Hitler with?

Also, I know the bill of rights. I don't have to read it.

And the actions of the counter-protesters were not peaceful, and no...I do not support their violent actions.

I do, however, think the ****'s presence in the black community was incindiary, and as such, being as they did not have a permit to assemble, should have been arrested for inciting violence (Oh statute 2917.01)

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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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The **** group should have needed a permit, because it was an organized event on public land. If they didn't apply for one, it was because they knew white supremecy groups are almost never given permits because the filth they spew is inflamatory and, in its very nature, violates the constitutional rights of those they hate.

While the **** gorup may have been peaceful, their message was not. When the Black Panthers gathered peacfully, they were broken up because they appeared and sounded militant. Same with these morons; if you are spreading a message of hate, you are not afforded the right to spread that message. They talked about keeping black people away from them, they complained about the imagined deficiencies of a whole race, and did so in an area where they KNEW they would illicit a response...that's not free speech or peacifully gathering, that's posturing for a **** fight.

If you threaten someone in a bar, and never swing, you can be arrested for assault. These ***** were threatening blacks in a black neighborhood in a very insidious and fundamental way, and in my mind they gave up their rights to free speech and public gathering when they express the idea that they don't believe african americans should have those very same rights.


Where do you draw the line between inciting a riot and gathering peacfully? Rock stars have been accused of inciting riots just by showing up someplace too small to handle their fans and telling them to mosh, etc... These guys are at least as guilty as that.

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