i am very interested in seeing how the police spin this one...

 

"HERE'S YOUR PATRIOT ACT!" lol.

Bottom line is that none of us were there. A taser should probably be used as a last resort in a situation like that, but it's also obvious the screamer was making no attempt to cooperate with the police and every attempt to make the situation alot harder than it needed to be.

 

I thought tazers were to be used when trying to stop someone from escaping. I think the tazer was abused in this video just as much as it was abused when the lady got pulled over in her SUV and wouldn't get off her cell phone...

Did you guys notice that he got tazared while he was trying to stand at one point?

 

According to the Daily Bruin article, the police confirmed that he was a UCLA student using the computer lab...


and what's funny is that he was using a UCLA computer so he must have logged in with his UCLA Student ID #. So they whole issue of him 'not having an ID card' is just silly considering he was doing something where he had already proven that he was a student by logging in...tasered over a beurocratic technicality.

 

You have a point. Listen, Police don't always go by the book to a "t" and in this case it was caught on tape. I wouldn't call not giving a badge number an "abuse of power" as spedmunki said. My point is you're supposed to be able to pull over in a public place (like a crowded parking lot) when a cop flashes their lights behind you, especially if you're a woman who fears the cop may be an impostor looking to rape her. Unfortunately, this may also come as a threat to the cop who thinks you're taking him to a place to be ambushed. He may pull a gun on you and introduce your teeth to the pavement or he may respect your decision. It’s your choice. Don't follow a police officers orders immediately and risk getting tased. Was it the cop's best choice of judgement? Probably not, but again, it was this pinkos choice to risk the chances. This punk may think his case is strong but he did not help the situation either.

There's two sides to every story... I just don't think anything will happen in this case which wouldn't surprise me. At the very most they fire these police. Big whoop.

 

Salty, I seriously respect your opinion on this board. We may not agree on everything, but your opinions are always well reasoned and I can always see where you are coming from.

But please, please stop using words such as "pinko". It really dumbs down the discussion. I am not saying anything personally about you, but by bringing such slang into the conversation all you are doing is opening the debate up to mindless banter about what is worse; hXc c0nz3rvat1v3z 'r hXz l1brlz. I realize other people are guilty of the same on both sides on this board, but it just stood out in your post. That is all .

And the guy probably didn't deserve that much, but he definately was being beligerant towards the police officers. Maybe the tazer just pissed him off more. It would be interesting to know what brought about the altercation in the first place.
Cheers
-Jeff

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061116/...eraphones_dc_3


I knew it would get more than local coverage...

 

After watching this for a second time, i'm really sickened. Like I said before; i'd like to see proof he's a UCLA student. IMO, the officers should have carried him out in the first place; seeing as two full grown men should be fully capable of carrying statically less than half of their weight. It would have spared them the embarrassment, possible investigation, and deserved degredation of character. These protectors of rights really did make this student ride the lightning. Does anybody know the tazer manufacturers reccomended maximum exposure time to the human body?

Obviously the kid is in panic upon being put in cuffs; Isn't it a possibility he has not been arrested before and is only reacting the only way he can? If I were in his position; Thinking I were innocent; I would have held my ground, and instructed the police to remove my lawyers card from my pocket and contact him immediately.


"While they may not be considered technically 'lethal', many question both the degree of safety presented by the weapon and the ethical implications of using a weapon that many judge to be inhumane. As a result, a number of civil liberties groups would like to see tasers banned. Amnesty International have documented over 150 deaths following the use of tasers. The US National Institute of Justice has begun a two year study into taser-related deaths in custody."
::http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tazer

This occurance was truly negligence via campus security's contact to local police; and primary contact between security and student.
This is a real, slippery slope.

 

Someone called the police to come remove this kid. The police showed up to escort him off campus or out of that building. I'm willing to bet that this kid has pulled this before and that the cops knew what to expect. Maybe, maybe not. In any case, he was waiting to have his 15 minutes of fame in front of his audience of students who were all ready to eat it up. The cops seemed like they just wanted to get in and get out, simple case of trespassing. There was the use of contact control to to escort the kid out, but he immediately used that as an excuse to go into theatrical overdrive. The the tazers came out. Kid ended up walking out under his own power. End of story.

As for the students demanding badge numbers during all this. If it was me, I don't know if I would have had the self control those cops did. The first guy that got up in my face demanding my badge number, while I'm dealing with the trespassing kid, would get knocked the f out. Then of course I'd probably lose my job.

When the cops showed up to escort the kid out, he should have just complied with them. I'm guessing he's got mental issues or he just really hates authority figures.

 

Police officers are required to give their name and badge # upon request. Staying busy will prevent interaction time with witnesses; it is to silently resist giving out information to possible whistleblowers. This is not a quiet subject in <u>any</u> law enforment agency.

Luckily it had been videotaped. 50+ college students' tesimonies could have been easily manipulated if it had not been caught.


You probably wouldn't make a very distinguishable officer.
If you are an officer; you don't deserve my focking taxed dividends.

 

Ok, fair enough I guess...even though you got some facts wrong...he never walked out, the cops dragged him away. Which they could have done before they tasered him...


My take: the kid is studying in a campus computer lab and forgot his ID. Figured it would be ok since he used his ID# to get access to the computer, but got hasseled by the comp lab CSOs (rent a cops) anyway. Already stressed (because he's probably got a test or project he was working on in the comp lab), he tells them to F off. They call the real cops. When they show up, he gets his bag and goes to leave...only to be grabbed and cuffed by the cops anyway. When they handle him as though he has no right to be there (even though he clearly does), he freaks out...which illicits a taser attack from the cops. That pushes him over the edge and he starts verbally attacking the cops and making rediculous statements (not unreasonable to me since he just got the s*** shocked out of him).

 

Follow up story:

http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38960

 

his name is Mostafa Tabatabainejad....hahahaha pigs prolly thought he was a terrorist...

 

and you think it's funny?!

 

yes i do find ignorance funny